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Shalom Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 12:48 PM
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12. Are We Allowed to Criticize the 48% of Americans Who Did Vote for Bush ?
Edited on Fri Jan-21-05 12:49 PM by Shalom
I agree Palast concedes too much by assuming Bush got a majority of the 2004 vote, but even the most die-hards amongst us will concede that he likely got about 48% or so of the popular vote.

If this is correct, we need to be honest with ourselves: are we even allowed to make disparaging comments about these people ? It is interesting that the Reich-wing of America is not shy about being hyper-critical of the liberals, and this has not hurt them. Why can't liberals tell the truth about the Reich-wing ?

For example, are we allowed to comment that while it's OK to watch reality TV, lots of football, and go to NASCAR races, that it's NOT OK to do so at the exclusion of being a responsible citizen ?

Is it OK to comment that it is fine to talk about the right to life, but hypocritical to do so when perhaps 100,000 INNOCENT HUMAN BEINGS IN IRAQ (THAT'S MEN, WOMEN, AND CHILDREN) HAVE BEEN MURDERED BY THE US GOVERNMENT ?

Is it OK to comment that it is wonderful to talk about faith and religion and attend houses of worship in the US, but hypocritical to do while while the US military is bombing houses of worhsip and destroying entire cities in Iraq ?

Let's face it: Bush would not have been elected were it not for some fundamental flaws in our national culture and character, and we can't blame the corporations and the media for everything. If we can't point out these flaws, we can never overcome them.

Remember from history that prior to Hitler becoming a dictator in Germany, he actually was able to get about 37% of Germany to VOTE for him (see below). My final question is this: Is it OK for us to criticize the Germans who voted for Hitler after he published his manifesto in Mein Kampf (so that it was clear what he stood for), and to recognize that if these individuals had not VOTED for Hitler, he never would have been a position to seize total power ?

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Hitler Versus Hindenburg - 1932
In February 1932 Hitler decided to stand against Hindenburg in the forthcoming Presidential election. In order to do this he became a German citizen on 25th February 1932. The result of the election on 13th March 1932 gave Hindenburg 49.6 percent of the vote and Hitler 30.1 percent (two other candidates stood). As Hindenburg failed to win a majority a second election was called. The result of the second election gave Hindenburg 53 percent and Hitler 36.8 percent (one other candidate stood). Thus Hindenburg was re-elected to office and Hitler was forced to wait for another opportunity to win power.
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Chancellor Bruening lasted in office until June 1932, unable to maintain popular support his government resigned due to pressure from the President, who had been advised by an influential General called Schleicher. General Schleicher had plotted the overthrow of the cabinet in conspiracy with the Nazis. Power then passed to a Presidential cabinet headed by a new Chancellor, Franz von Papen. New Reichstag elections were also set for the end of July.
Nazis Become the Largest Party - 1932
In the July elections, the Nazi Party won 13,745,000 votes which gave them 230 out of the 608 seats in the Reichstag. Although the Nazis were the largest party, they were still short of a majority. Hitler, however, demanded that he be made Chancellor but was offered only the position of Vice-Chancellor in a coalition government, which he refused.
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