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bain_sidhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 06:50 PM
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19. yes, no, no, no, yes
DNR funds have too often been diverted to developers.

On Prop 5, I think anybody who supports *public* education needs to realize that public schools are staggering under a decade of flat or declining budgets. If we want an educated workforce, if we want to keep good teachers, we have to insure that school districts shouldn't have to bankrupt themselves to provide a service that EVERYBODY in the state benefits from. I've read the CRC analysis, but want to point out that the business interests are a hefty proportion of their board of directors.

Here are some people on the other side of the question:

Let me highlight just one point from their "talking points" - when we don't "tie governments' hands" and allow them the "flexibility" to shift resources away from education, this is what happens:

State support for Michigan’s public community colleges and universities has been cut by hundreds of millions of dollars over the past few years. Our local, public K-12 schools are continually forced to make cuts to basic programs, threatening the viability of Michigan’s entire K-16 public education system.

Ok, a couple of more points I want to highlight:

Noted observer of politics, economics and education, Phil Power, pointed out that manufacturing CEOs agree: the presence of a quality K-16 public education system is the most important factor in the survival of manufacturing in Michigan.

In his report entitled, “A Roadmap to Michigan’s Future: Meeting the Challenge of a Global Knowledge-Driven Economy,” James J. Duderstadt, former President of the University of Michigan, said building Michigan’s regional advantage is achieved through “ . . . creating a highly educated and skilled workforce (in) an environment that stimulates creativity, innovation and entrepreneurial behavior.”

Microsoft CEO Bill Gates recently told the National Council of State Legislatures that a vibrant K-16 education system is the key to attract businesses to a state. More education means higher earnings and the creation of more high paying jobs.

So, in response to the earlier crack about "I can understand why the MEA would want to do this. If they get their cut, who cares about anyone else?" (Apparently Engler's demonizing of teachers lives on in our hearts - it's not like we actually *want* competent people to teach our children, after all...) I say, bringing good businesses here benefits the whole state, not just teachers.

If you feel you must cut off your nose to spite your face, go right ahead. Just realize that that IS what you're doing.
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