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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 05:00 AM
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"If we get something decent from this, a damn good amount of the credit will go to the 'hard left (hand wringing, do nothing progressives) who went to the Town Halls and spoke eloquently and supportively of a public option. They may not have made the news, but they were there, they were active. To the individuals who faced arrest at Baucus' committee meetings because they wanted single payer to be considered alongside the other options. To Howard Dean and his efforts."

Funny, I didn't see Howard Dean constantly attacking the president... not sure why you lumped him in with the people I'm talking about. I think health care will pass because it is important and the Dems have been wanting to reform health care for a long time. It is just difficult to do when you consider the various obstacles--Rs who want to do nothing but block health care, conservadems worried about political fallout from supporting reform, the 60 vote threshhold to stop a filibuster. Those groups you mention will get credit, but who shouldn't get credit? People sitting around posting attacks on the president all day on DU.

'And, it's not that everyone who complains about Obama is against him. It's that his record to date is making us suspicious. There is also the fact that we know he is capable of more - a lot more. And, we expect it of him.

Left to the 'whatever Barry does is fine with me' brigade, Baucus' plan would have become law by now."

There are people who do nothing BUT complain about Obama. His record is not perfect, but he's not George Bush. There are a lot of things he has not had time to focus on because of all the other shit going on. Some people don't understand this, some people expect everything to be fixed NOW, and it just doesn't work that way. Funny you should mention the Baucus plan: it is currently in committee being attacked by 500+ amendmnents (including one to add a public option) and at least Sen. Rockefeller is on record saying he opposes the Baucus bill as is. So no, it would not be law by now. Believe me, people complaining on the internet are having no effect other than to piss off sane people reading their complaints.
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