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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 02:56 AM
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107. I never did.
I see the Constitution as an extension of the will of the people establishing government. I therefore see government as an extension of the people's will. When government fails or refuses to listen to that will, it ceases to be legitimate, as our Declaration of Independence says.

Our rights come from above the Constitution, but the Constitution is our method of guaranteeing those rights. We certainly have rights not specifically mentioned in the Constitution. However when rights are specifically mentioned, or when government is restricted, in the Constitution, government has a specific obligation to obey. The rules we set up in the Constitution governing who can become president are not violations of our rights to choose, they are the codification of our rights to choose, and the restrictions on the government from taking away those rights. The Constitution codifies the right of the people to say that a president must be a natural born citizen, though, and therefore government has a requirement, not a right, to enforce that restriction, since We the People, through the powers we define in our Constitution, set that restriction. Same with the other rights you mention.

It's like the theological debate over whether God can make a stone so heavy that he cannot lift it. Can the people make a law so strong that the people cannot violate it. I believe we have to have that power, or we have absolutely no power at all. And the Constitution is our expression of that power, as citizens within our established form of government.
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