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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:50 AM
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66. You've changed your argument.
Bush Daddy lost because he was centrist, now he lost because he was weak. Our candidates lost because they were centrist, now they lost because they were weak.

The losing candidate always looks weak, because they lost (though Gore won). If W or Reagan or Clinton had lost, they would look weak.

And yeah, Bush 04 and Reagan 84 ran as the candidate most appealing to the center. They both painted their opponents as too liberal, too extreme. Never mind how they governed--we were talking about campaigning. They ran as the candidate closest to the center. That's centrist.

Wikipedia's entry on Mondale in 84 (Wikipedia being just a summary of conventional interpretations): "Mondale ran a liberal campaign, supporting a nuclear freeze and the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA). He spoke against what he considered to be unfairness in Reagan's economic policies and the need to reduce federal budget deficits." (Isn't that what you wanted?)

On Kerry in 2004: The Americans for Democratic Action, a prominent liberal organization, rates Kerry's voting record better than that of Senator Edward Kennedy (D-MA), causing Republican National Committee chairman Ed Gillespie to joke, "Who would have guessed it? Ted Kennedy is the conservative senator from Massachusetts."

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