Reply #55: and I agree.

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a small subset need to get over themselves and stop gloating at every opportunity, though.
This is not a sports contest, or American Idol. Nobody "wins" unless we salvage the country. I remain to be convinced that the best person for the job has been selected by this pathetically flawed process. In my opinion it would have been neither of these two, but BHO was my #6 and HRC my #7 back when there were 8 to choose from.

There's some old joke about a dog chasing cars, something about not knowing what to do with it if he catches it. I have trepidations as we venture forth into this new era. I think it just may BE a new era. I am truly pumped by the success here in Il 14 yesterday. If Obama's charisma can help get rid of that logjam in the Senate, then people like Leahy, Biden, etc. can start really fixing things.

THAT is the prize of all prizes, and THAT is what we need to be rooting for. Obama may be the means to that end, and if so, I'll take it. Whatever his "experience" level or lack thereof does not really mean jack shit. The only - ONLY - thing that can call for someone making a snap decison at 3 am with no more warning than a phone call is incoming ICBMs. That overriding spectre of the cold war that many of us grew up with is chilling. Quick Mr(s). President, say yes and we'll destroy the planet! Say no and only our half of it will be destroyed! But that is not really the issue now. Nothing is THAT urgent. Shit, bush kept reading a kids book when the planes hit. He is no good role model of course, but there is NO immediate decision that the CinC could/would/should have made in the first ten minutes, prior to talking to advisors, that would have changed a damned thing.

That is the facts, HRC knows it, and trying to play that card is one of the things that made me decide she truly had taken her eye off the ball. It seems it is about winning to her, not about doing the right thing. Pissed me off.

Anyway, if everyone can stop the pissing contests about parsing sentences and evaluating raised eyebrows or perceived slights and think calmly and clearly about the simple fact that our form of government has been under siege for decades, and the war is almost over (and lost) and that this is our last stand, maybe we actually CAN come together. Aside from being annoyed at rudeness, which I get over in a second, I have been deeply troubled by the shallowness and lack of comprehension - by lots of camps - of what is really at stake. Expressions like "it is so-and-so's turn" and shit like that just make my blood boil.

Joe said it well. He said something like "if Jesus Christ were to come sit down at this table and tell me 'Joe, candidate a (or b or c) can do a better job of it than you' I'd drop out gladly on the spot"

That is the true patriotic spirit we need. My OP was prompted not by the change in delegate count from Wy, as someone assumed, but by concluding that spirit is lacking in the HRC team. I just have to cross my fingers it is there in the other one.