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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:02 AM
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204. Interesting "facts." I don't pick presidents on race or gender.
Then I look at the facts:

1. She voted against Cheney's energy bill and Obama voted for it. (6 billion in subsidies for oil companies.)

Yup - bad vote.

2. He has consistently voted to fund the war the entire time he has been in the Senate. (anti-war?)

So did she. I can respect someone believing that de-funding the war and giving the president the opportunity to let my best friend rot in Iraq without support might not be the best way to get our troops home. So I won't penalize either candidate for it too much. However, what he didn't do was vote for the IWR. She did. Period.

3. She has consistently worked to better the lives of women and children around the world (look it up if you don't believe it.)

And she is to be commended.

4. She has women's rights on her website and Obama does not

Yes, he does.

5. Barack courts the religious right with his male dominated language that promotes male domination in religion (I've had enough of that for a lifetime, actually.)

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. As a person of faith and a radical leftist, I don't take well to such stupid sweeping generalizations.

6. Barack has a shitload of corporate money behind him

By the numbers, not as much as Hillary Clinton. So choosing her over him for this reason is illogical. There may be other reasons, but this one is contrary to reason.

7. His health care plan covers children but not their mothers? Wow, that makes sense!

The differences in their health care policies are an honest debate. I don't like her program, but I understand some do. Might be a reason to vote for her.

8. He can trash Wal Mart in a debate with Hillary but there are many americans who cannot afford to purchase from anywhere else.

Yeah like me last year. That doesn't change the fact that Wal-Mart deserves to be trashed. What should be done is looking for ways to improve the lives of americans who don't have other options. Both candidates are talking about how to do that. The "wal-mart" point is contrary to reason.

9. Read the Chicago Sun Times and search for "Rezko Obama." Then read every article. (that's all I need to say)

Read Media Matters complete debunking of the Rezko bullshit. Read every point. (that's all I need to say.)

"Lastly, In all honesty - and I mean this:
If there is not a female on this presidential ticket I wil have to abstain from voting in the GE. Why? Because a lifetime of voting for all men for presidents is enough."

That's fine, I just wish you could be flown to Iraq and stand nose to nose with my friends son, or my own best friend and explain to them why you're OK with leaving them there to die under a McCain presidency.

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