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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:17 PM
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65. Hell yes she made a speech on the floor about the "Betray us" ad
She stood firmly behind MoveOn.

Where has Obama taken a firm stand on a controversial issue? All I ever see is him SAYING the right thing sometimes. But when he has a chance to back up that rhetoric with a VOTE, he shys away and crumbles... like with Kyl-Lieberman.

You want another example where she stood up for something, that doesn't have to do with voting?

Anti-War Crowd Turns On Obama

As Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill. defends himself against anti-war critics this week, his rivals are taking the opportunity to cast themselves as more firmly opposed to President Bush's Iraq policy than Obama who happens to be the only leading Democratic candidate who publicly opposed the war when it began.

Obama has found himself facing a storm on leading liberal blogs over a weekend interview in which he spoke as though he were an observer, not a participant, in the confrontation between Congress and Bush over a threatened veto of legislation that sets a deadline for withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq.


Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., in contrast to Obama, has refused to take Bushs veto for granted. She launched a petition drive Monday to demand that Bush sign the bill. Asked in Crawfordsville Tuesday whether Obama's willingness to look past the veto was helpful or unhelpful to the Democratic position, she responded: "I'm only going to speak for myself, and my position is we have to negotiate with the president from a position of strength.

"We need to change the approach of the White House, which means you've got to stand firm and say, 'We don't expect you to veto something that represents the will of the American people,'" Clinton said.

Obama Gaffe on War Funding?

April 01, 2007 11:06 PM

ABC News' Jonathan Greenberger Reports: In what may be a blow to his support among the anti-war left, the Associated Press is reporting that Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., says that if President Bush vetoes the war funding bill because of its timetable for troop withdrawal from Iraq, the Congress will then swiftly provide the president with another version that lacks such a provision. According to the AP, Obama explained this by saying that no lawmaker wants to play chicken with our troops.

President Bush has previously vowed to veto any Iraq supplemental bill that contains a withdrawal timeline.

Obamas comments to the AP place him alone among the major Democratic candidates for president. So far, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., and others have focused on simply calling on Bush not to veto the supplemental, and unlike Obama, have not stated that the Congress would respond to a veto by sending the president a "clean?" funding bill.

Already, Obama is taking heat for his remarks from some of the anti-war left, which is a key constituency for his campaign. Influential liberal blogger Markos Moulitsas wrote on Daily Kos that he wishes Obama's comments were an April Fool's Joke. "What a ridiculous thing to say. Not only is it bad policy, not only is it bad politics, it's also a terrible negotiating approach," wrote Moulitsas. "Obama just surrendered to Bush."

Obama's campaign did not return a request for comment.

And to again illustrate the point that Obama says the right thing, and then does the opposite...

Obama said 'no' to Iraq money in theory, 'yes' in reality

January 14, 2008

PAHRUMP, Nev. -- When Barack Obama was running for a U.S. Senate seat from Illinois in 2004, he filled out a questionnaire for the Chicago Sun-Times answering "no" to this question: Would you have voted for the $87 billion supplemental appropriation for Iraq and Afghanistan?

Once elected to the Senate, Obama voted for a series of war funding measures,
as did chief rival Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.).,CST-NWS-sweet...

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