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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 09:37 AM
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84. The"dirt" has been out that when it is drudged out AGAIN it will be familiar,believable
Of course the right wing is not going to vote Democratic anyway.

What I am talking about is the MODERATES who WILL decide the election.

And I am talking about being able to FRAME the debate during the campaign.

If Hillary is nominated, more than anyone else, the Reps will be able to frame the debate around all the old memes about Hillary that have been carefully planted for years. For a large part, they are quiet about them now, but once she would get the nomination, they would explode.

So most of our energies and time and money will be spent explaining away these memes instead of being able to present our campaign on our own terms and take our issues to the fore.

This is one of the ways Kerry was hurt. It would be even easier with Hillary simply because these memes have already been planted.

Saying she has been able to survive them is wishful thinking. She has never run for office nationally. She has only run as a Sentator in a solidly Democratic state.

I am really pessimistic about her chances in the general, and am not that optimistic about Obama's either, although I think he has a much better chance than Hillary.

Sorry, but I don't think Hillary's familiarity is going to make her stronger than Obama in the general.

I have a feeling that in 08 the voters are going to want something different. More than any of our candidates, Hillary represents going back to more of the same, and i am not associating her with Bush, but we have seen the Bushes mangle things, people liked Clinton I, but there were some struggles here. It is going to be a hard sell presenting Hillary as a fresh start. And that is what many voters are gonna want to see. It is ironic that they might find a fresh new start with another republican, but with enough advertising a republican could be presented as a fresh start better than hillary.

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