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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 07:27 AM
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13. This is odd . . . from the "Moving the Piggy Bank" article

"During the Clinton years, the Democrats made a crucial breakthrough by adding California and the other Pacific states to their traditional Northeastern and Midwestern base, but important plums such as Texas and Georgia have virtually been ceded to the GOP."

Clinton won Georgia his first time out, lost it the second time but not by a wide margin, if I recall correctly.

Ceding Georgia to the GOP is foolish. Georgia is a state that's been experiencing a large influx of people from other states for years, both because there are jobs here and because many from colder climates retire here, viewing it as the "new Florida" because it's less crowded once you get beyond the Atlanta suburbs, we actually have four seasons here, though we haven't had snow in several years (An Inconvenient Truth) we still have beautiful seasons, we have less crime (or that's the perception) than Florida. It's probably more accurate to say that there are more parts of Georgia with low crime rates than there are parts of Florida with low crime rates.

Many of those who move here are Republicans but that could change, may be changing already. We have lots of immigrants, from many countries, and immigrants are usually Democrats.

When Georgia went to computer voting in 2002, despite having gone GOP in Clinton's second run and for Bush, we had a Democratic governor, Roy Barnes, who was being talked about for the vice-presidency or presidency in the future, and two Democratic senators, Max Cleland being the one up for re-election that year. They were ahead in the polls election night and ahead in the exit polls but magically lost, as did Cynthia McKinney. The GOP had spent a shitload of money here, brought Bush in many times, Cheney, Poppy, and Laura two or three times as well, mostly to campaign for Saxby Shameless.

We need to go back to hand-counted paper ballots in every preceinct of every state. I don't know if we can ever stop what's been happening without that but it seems to be a mostly forgotten issue, with everyone focusing on who the nominee should be.
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