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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 07:28 PM
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77. Was away.
OK, a quarter of the affirmative action admits were first/second generation.

What percentage of the black population are immigrants, their kids or grandkids? A quarter? Hardly. I'd guess a few percentage points--with Haitians, Jamaicans, and Cubans at the top of the list. So there's probably an order of magnitude difference, if we go with a quarter of the admits being first/second generation, and perhaps 20 times what you'd expect in other colleges. You expect them to be 3-5 out of a hundred, you get 25 to 50 out of a hundred.

A few times what's expected is disproportionate, and disproportionality of that magnitude has been used to prove discrimination in the courts. An order of magnitude, even up to 20x what's expected is, to my mind, "wildly disproportionate". Especially when the goal of affirmative action is not to help the children or grandchildren of immigrants of the last 40 years, since civil rights were extended, but, again, those whose families have suffered from the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow. Ivy League colleges were embarrassed that instead of helping those they claimed to help, they were helping people that looked the same but had different demographic profiles.
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