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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 03:47 PM
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48. I do not believe Hillary is a neocon or conservative.
Edited on Thu Dec-07-06 03:49 PM by Zodiak Ironfist
I have my own scale to measure these things, based on their voting records.

Here is a graph I made of how all of our senators in this Congress voted (up until Sept.) according to the big issues. Hillary doesn't do that badly on this chart...she represents pretty much what I would call a post-modern mainstream Democrat (not on the right side of the party). Unfortunately, mainstream Democrats are not as true to a progressive ideology as they used to be.

See? Clinton is the right-side tail of the progressive wing of the Democratic party if one looks at voting history alone.

I know her sins in the 102nd Congress, too. Here they are (as I define them):
She confirmed Condi
She confirmed Negroponte
She did not vote against the bankruptcy bill (nor for she got a neutral score)
She voted to extend the Patriot Act
She voted for the Tax Relief Act (a Bush tax cut)
She voted for the US-Oman Free Trade Agreement

This record reflects a strong free trade policy, a flattened tax policy, and a tendency to allow the executive branch to do what it wants. Not great, but far better than the swine below her on the graph.

In all other respects, she is fairly progressive. However, she is far from my first choice. I can live with her, but I have some less quantifiable reasons for not liking her versus some of the rest of the field. For one, she is stingy with her political capital, and therefore is not much of a leader for the party. Second, she belongs to the DLC, whose membership is FAR more right-wing than she is and whose presense is a direct impediment to the grassroots of the party having a say in things. I do not think we need to reinforce the DLC's idea that they are the "leadership" of the party by legitimizing them with another nomination.

Of course, I will vote for her if she gets nominated, but I will work hard to make sure that doesn't happen (and that it does happen for Gore, who is my choice).

PS. In case anyone was wondering, I do not get mad at anyone who is trying to build up a candidate or tear one down here on DU (I like the debate). What irritates me is when people entrench themselves so deeply that they will hurl insults and ridicule at fellow DUers, who are NOT public figures, but ostensible political allies and regular people with feelings. This practice is divisive, strategically illogical, and frankly, beneath the intelligence and morals of so many of us. Not that I think my opinion will change anything, but there it is. I do use Ignore on members of both sides of the political divide on this board...and my trigger is insulting, bullying behavior.
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