Reply #2: let me respond to torture in this way:

[kentjay]

first it doesn`t work in getting info,everybody does it,pick a country,geneva doesn`t help,countries are going to torture no matter what.the problem is going to war in the first place,one should have just cause for doing just that,not deceiving,lying,falsehoods,make-ups.now once a country goes to war,there are no rules,from concord to lexington to ww2,to vietnam to this nutcase war today.torture is done, will be done as long as humans settle their problems in said ways,war.now during my 3 years in vietnam i had seen many instances of either torture or questionable tactics.if one is in a war one does not stop to think about the geneva convention,one is more concerned with staying alive,that basically is the objective in a nutshell.now example:taking a sniper team up the delta we stopped at a village that had been infiltrated by vc,the leader of the village a known vc sympathizer refuse to talk and it was evident that vc had just been in the village.one team member pull out his .45 and threatened the village leader,still he refused to talked,he was promptly knee capped,his knee cap blown off,the team leader pointed his weapon at the other knee cap and the vc began talking,so much so that the sniper team uncovered tunnels weapons,plans,etc.now morally is this justified,no,practically yes.i`m no suppored of any rethugs nor the cheneys,nor this war or any war,except maybe if we are attacked,such as the wtc,but in that case we failed to nab the culprit that did that.basically all this administration did was weaken a country,the usa.