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Reply #193: The WHOLE thing was fishy. I'm right with you there. [View All]

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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:24 AM
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193. The WHOLE thing was fishy. I'm right with you there.
The 5-4 and 7-2 thing just makes it impossible to parse.

I just have to explain the FL part a little better. Gore, as far as I know, never contested anything in FL. Under FL law he would have had a right to do so by claiming fraud. He didn't ever do that.

Instead, what happened was a mandatory recount is required by statute in close elections. I think it is something like a half a percent, or may be a quarter percent. It was close enough to trigger the mandatory redo. (Orange County, Orlando area, never even did the mandatory recount. They just recertified the original count rather than run the punchcards through the machines again as required by law.)

If the automatically triggered recounts vary by a certain amount from the original counts, any contestant can request a hand count. This happened in only four counties. Gore requested the hand counts. (We did ours here in Volusia county and I think it changed by like nine votes or something. People had written the name on the balot instead of coloring the dot for the optical scan. LOL)

Now here's the deal. We have counties (rural) that only do hand counts on paper ballots. We have punch cards. We have optical scan. And newly arrived in 2004 we now have vapor votes.

In every case the local election board has always had to deal with it. State law says that a vote must be counted if the intent of the voter is clear. Simple and uniform for the whole state.

In any event, the real problem with SCOTUS was that the record showed that the most accurate method for counting votes is a hand count. Many experts testified in the lower courts and they all agreed on this. Not a single line of testimony disputed this. It may even be well establised law as far as I know. And yet..

SCOTUS even stopped the original four counties from doing the hand count. Odd. Very odd. Something about it would violate equal protection for the other counties that didn't get a hand count. And yet we (here in Volusia, one of the original four) did exactly that and had it certified before the count was halted. Go figure...
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