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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 04:48 PM
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155. ah, sorry about the ambiguity there
I meant that you seemed to be assuming that I was defending e-voting -- which may have been a mistake on my part (that's why I said "may"), and at any rate isn't material to the issues. But I didn't mean to throw you off by it.

If I understand this post correctly, you are proposing as a counterfactual (not necessarily as a policy) that they could implement DREs with retrospective voter verifiability. So why didn't they? Probably because no one insisted on it, and it would be expensive to implement. I mean, what we know about these folks that they overpromise and underdeliver -- I shudder to think about their attempts to implement "a secure system that you could go on-line... and check to see if your vote is REALLY there." (I don't object to the concept.)

If you're insisting that systems designed this poorly have to be designed with fraudulent intent, well, I'm just not convinced. It's possible that they were, but perfectly possible that they weren't. I've seen plenty of poorly designed systems. And these _are_ poorly designed systems, as far as I can tell -- they have many more egregious security flaws than they should if they were expressly engineered to steal elections. However, there's no reason why sloppy-bad and wicked-bad couldn't coexist, so I'm not taking any comfort in the evidence of sheer incompetence. (Incidentally, if we are really positing a black-box nightmare, then presumably the system could be rigged to produce false tallies while linking every PIN to a correct ballot image. I would much rather just have paper ballots.)
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