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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 10:49 PM
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121. Lunch time answer to your points.
The DEMS have always seen a decline from the exit polls to the vote. Punched card spoilage always cost them millions of votes in minority precincts; that's a major reason (but not the only one) why the exit polls have always overstated the democratic vote. (Casting votes out for "spoilage" is one of the great silent "election fraud" scandals spanning decades)

In fact, the exit polls were close to the truth - but at least 3% of democrats who were polled did not realize that their votes were never counted.

Nevertheless, the trend in exit poll deviation has been going down to zero. In 2000 the exit polls were right - Gore won. See the graph.


Now its 2004. The Republicans have their Diebold machines with no paper trail counting 30% of the votes. They will have to accept the fact that since there will be fewer spoiled ballots, they will need to make them with votes stolen with the only Diebold machines made without a paper trail. Unlike those ATM's weve all used which have no problem producing paper trails.

In 2004 punched card ballot spoilage would not be enough for Bush to win. Bush needed to go straight to the boss, Wally ODell for the big fix.

Those who ignore the massive, documented fraud and maintain that Bush won do so at the peril of a docile but awakening Democratic Party.

Why is it that you fail to fully discuss the fact that millions of votes were lost through ballot spoilage or worse.

You argue that the exit polls are always wrong. No, your premise that the official votes represent voter intent is fallacious. The combination of spoiled punched cards and the Diebold hacking won it for Bush.

You are effectively claiming that the final vote count is always correct and the exit polls faulty, yet ignore the documented historical data which prove that the final count does not represent the true intent of the voters whose votes were never counted.

This all fits nicely with the logic of the political argument above. Given the veracity of the politics and voting blocs, it was vital to do something more. After all, these are the very same people who invaded a country which never attacked us and did so for a variety of reasons, each of which has fallen.

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