Reply #43: So you are saying we are the majority and a "liberal" can win?

[kentuck]

If a moron like George Bush got 9 million more votes than a liberal like John Kerry, excuse me if I am skeptical. And John Kerry has been considered a liberal since his Vietnam days, regardless of whether he tried to portray himself as something else. We can ignore that little fact.

Although I agree with your observation that "we always have power ... we have the power to educate the public ... winning an election but not having a public that understands and agrees with your values will be a short-lived victory ... nice? sure! ... but that's the wrong approach ... we need a long-term, cohesive message ... not a politically expedient do-anything-to-get-elected message ... the real struggle is for the hearts and minds of the American people".... but that is going to be a long struggle, I think. Once that battle is fought, will anything be worth fighting for? By then, we should be so deep in the shitter that anything will look like an improvement.

Basically, you have hit the nerve of the argument. You believe a "liberal" can win. Under the present political realities and after 25 years of unrelenting assault on the liberal idea, I have my doubts. With that said, is it worth fighting for even if we know we are not going to win? Yes. But be prepared for a very long struggle.
For what does a man gain if he should lose his soul?