Reply #41: Many of the Fire Dept's of yore...did not put out the fires that were

[rasputin1952]

not 'covered' by political machines. It took quite some time to ensure that Firefighters would actually combat all fires.

As to the 'oath' you speak of...any oath is only as good as the person who made it. bush is a prime example; he took an oath tho "protect and defend the Constitution", and yet he is trying to shred it as we speak. I have refused to take two oaths, as they would have been seriously conflicting to what i adhere to. I would NEVER take an oath to someone, but I would take an oath for an ideal I found worth defending. An oath is an honor bound statement, and should never be taken lightly. But that is just me, I understand that others have conflicting views.