Reply #44: I disagree.

[Don1]

You can have your opinion, too, like you said, this is democracy...even though it really isn't. It's a republic with rampant corruption and election fraud.

"I don't like the DLC myself (at the risk of starting YET ANOTHER FUCKING FLAME WAR), but I think we'd both rather have Al or Hillary, or even JoeMentum as President rather than these madmen who have used their bizarre and destructive domestic and foreign policies to maneuver the Republic we all love into riding this crazy bobsled to Hell."

Joementum or Al or Hillary, no. You have to understand that this is a pendulum. Hillary as President will be 1 or 2 terms and then we will face another Neo-Con President. Hillary will not undo everything that BushCo has done, because she is complicit in half of it. She will undo some it. So 4 terms from now we will be in twice the trouble we are in now.

A Progressive, yes. We need a leftie to undo all the BushCo damage. Then, 2 terms from now, we will be in a nice spot with universal health care, civil liberties, and maybe some peace. After those 2 terms, who would believe the right-wingers?

Now, if the best that the Dem Party can give me is a Hillary or God forbid, an Al From, then I am out. So are others. We will let the fascists take on even more power. The reason is that we will quickly have a socialist revolution afterward. It has to get worse before it gets better.