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murdoch Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 01:56 PM
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7. different protests
As I said in your other thread, there are two major anti-war organizers, the UFPJ who are sort of liberal, and ANSWER/IAC/WWP/Bring the Troops Home Now Coaltion who are very far-left. The UFPJ protests have never had those tactics, and even the ANSWER protests almost never have those tactics, although the ANSWER protests are not exercises in trying to convince the general public but just far left preaching to the choir ("support the iraqi resistance/free mumia/support the cuban five etc.")

One thing I recognize is that the ANSWER authoritarian far left has its own agenda which is different than that of the UFPJ folks. ANSWER will have its rallies no matter what, they are so far out of the mainstream that they are marching to the beat of their own drummer. And they'll say and do whatever they want, your reasoning will not work with them.

The UFPJ protests are different - they are ones DU people probably like better or might be involved in. The only problem with these is while 100% of ANSWER people are committed to doing work, that is the case with only a fraction of the UFPJ marches. Thus UFPJ marches last year were focused on electing Kerry to some degree - now that he's lost they're not that interested in doing much, letting ANSWER take over as the anti-war leaders. UFPJ is much more open to Democrat (and even DLC) calls to call off protests. They're much more easily moved by news reports of "democracy breaking out in the Middle East". I know a bit about Iraq and Lebanon, and the idea democracy is breaking out in either of them is ludicrous in my mind, especially considering Bush closed down the Iraq trade union headquarters and has continued some of Saddam's anti-union policies. I'm less familiar with Egypt so I don't know what's going on there although I'm a bit skeptical.

Anyhow, what I'm basically saying is as mainstream people withdraw from working against bringing the troops home, they leave leadership open to the wingnut organizations. So fingers can be pointed in both directions. I myself seek the best in both groups, the commitment and backbone of the wingnuts, and the potential mass popularity of the UFPJ, liberal groups.
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