Reply #95: So are you saying that the weights used in 2000,

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by VNS did or didn't change their results? Like what the OP is talking about? How is what you are talking about even relevant? Like you say, the data from 2000 shows the same thing, with or without weights. Are you arguing that this is also the case in 2004? Just what is your problem with the OP. It is accurate, no? You seem to be grasping at straws here. The VNS exit polls were just fine, IMHO.

And as to your question about VNS projecting the vote correctly, they did, I saw it. After FL was "uncalled" a VNS guy was on the air explaining why it was uncalled. It was well documented. There were illegal ballots that led to a lot of spoiled ballots. The spoiled ballots were real. The will of the people was thwarted. You must be aware of this. From memory it was something like 30-35k from Broward/Palm Beach and another 15-25k in Duval.

In total, I think it was 50k votes. Enough to determine the winner, which is why they called FL for Gore in the first place. And yes, no one denies the double-punched ballots really happened. It's an old trick. One that I first learned about back in the days of the Voting Rights Act. It's the reason butterfly ballots were illegal to begin with. If the ballots don't confuse the voters enough to make the proper amount of mistakes necessary for a win, then simply double-punch a bunch of them and blame it on voter confusion. It has always been a really popular in predominately black precincts. They used to show a great movie on it back when I was in grammar school. I've seen it two or three times, if not more than that. One of the many truths about the history of voting in the South.

In 2000, one of the black precincts in Duval had one out of every five voters voting twice for President. One in five. Black voters. Voted twice. I can't believe you don't know about this. Of course I think that VNS called it correctly. Why wouldn't I? And if you think that's dubious, well then at least I know who I'm talking to. Wow. You sound sincere, but if you don't understand anything about Bush v. Gore and what really happened in FL and why and how, then I don't know where to begin.

Maybe I don't understand why you are bringing up VNS. Is there also something similar that is wrong with their stuff. If so, I don't know what it is. It passes my smell test. Especially in light of everything that I know about the recount effort in FL. The OP refers to a different animal completely. Do you really not comprehend the difference, or are you practicing at being intentionally obtuse. Not trying to offend with this question. I just won't waste time responding if you are playing at the latter. It is just really difficult for me to believe that you don't understand the big picture here. The OP is correct. This reeks. Why is that so difficult to admit?