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Who Killed John O'Neill part II
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Edited on Sat Jul-01-06 01:39 AM by DrDebug
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Who Killed John O'Neill

Who needs a plane?
An Updated MIHOP

Who did 9/11? A question we all want to know answers to.
Meet the CIA of the 21st century. Privatized, independent and hidden from view.
  • AIG as Money Laundering Inc.
  • Marsh Crisis Consultancy as Terrorism Inc with Osama bin Laden played by Paul Bremer
  • Kroll as the privatized CIA Inc.
  • al-Cokeda as the Drug dealers in the Flight school who are later called terrorists in the OCT

  • Learn how they all work together.
  • Learn how they make fortunes on 9/11 with insider trading.
  • Learn how sophisticated psyops ops and black ops is.

  • Learn what the government and the OTCers don't want you to know

Video + previous discussion: (it is better if you watch the video first)


The video
Ty Rauber made it and it has one actor playing all the parts -a conspiracy theorist, a paranoid "they're after us" type, an OCTer, a philospher and they are all discussing 911-it's kind of like this forum. He ties Kroll, CIA, AIG together, speculated that Kroll is a sort of privatized CIA, running on drug money but able to do what the CIA can't because they aren't allowed. Some of this relates to the Hopsicker story.

Why are these Kroll types anti terrorism experts; where do they get the information? Then they show how people move between these corporations and CIA . Doesn't spend a lot of time on the hows and why's of the actual day, more about drugs insurance companies/ CIA and the piece de resistance -what Al Qaeda really is and what Mohammed Atta's function was, his opinion will make a lot of sense as to Atta's behavior.

This is all for the same video , I gave different links in case some didn't work:

    Movie Downloads:


    Iran-Contra II

    How the 9/11 flight schools were being used for narcotics trafficing to finance black operations like 9/11 which was covered up by labeling the drug dealers, terrorists. The drug import just continued after 9/11 as if nothing happened and were involved in the biggest cocaine shipment ever...

    Mohammed Atta's girlfriend

    Learn about drug planes being used also for illegal CIA rendition, the (hidden) owner of the flight school committing insider trading on 9/11, scams with non-existing companies which miraculously produce DC-9s, and much more...

    In dedication of the top anti-terrorism expert of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, John O'Neill



  • American International Group = Maurice "Hank" Greenberg
  • Marsh & McLennan = Jeffrey Greenberg
  • Ace = Evan Greenberg (not featured in the story thus far)
  • Bear Stearns = Alan Greenberg
  • Kroll always had AIG as shareholder and is currently part of Marsh.

    Possible teams for 9/11:

    October 11, 2001 Marsh established specialized terrorism team called Marsh Crisis Consultancy
    The following teams were added to it: Control Risks Group, a British ex-SAS team and Versar homeland defense team. The same group could have known each other from 9/11

    Kroll has military team in their company and merged with Armor Holdings on August 23rd thus adding Defence Systems Limited, another Private Military Corporation, to their operations, an ex-KGB team called Alpha Firm was earlier acquired by Defence Systems Limited.

    That makes at least four teams which could have been used on 9/11.
    Additional teams from the military could have been used as well.

    They had the means to do this.
  • Marsh had full control on WTC1 where they occupied all floors.
  • Marsh had the top floor of the WTC2 "impact" and could have worked their way down, however the main occupant was Fuji bank with whom AIG did a lot of work and also featured in Iran-Contra.
  • WTC7 contained a CIA office and Kroll and AIG are very closely related to the CIA and it is very likely that Kroll is the privatized version of the CIA
  • The Pentagon was of course under their own control.

    They had the opportunity to do this.

  • AIG/Kroll/Marsh are closely connected to the Bush administration, to Henry Kissinger.
  • AIG/Kroll/Marsh are also closely related to the Intelligence Community.
  • AIG/Kroll/Marsh capitalized on 9/11 and it was good for their business.
  • AIG was laundering drug money for al-Cokeda.
  • AIG was involved in the oil and gas line to Afghanistan
  • There is reason to believe that the Taliban either cut back on the drug trade or that they went into business for themselves. Either way the flow of heroin from Afghanistan was drastically limited.
  • Greenberg and Khasshogi had a business relation and benefited for the narcotics from Afghanistan and had interest in the oil and gas line as well
  • The Greenberg family and the Bush family are partners in fraud.

    They had motive to do this.

    There are main objectives to 9/11 and additional subgoals persuded that day. The main objectives are:
    1. Enabling the war in Afghanistan
    2. Bush administration gets an enormous popularity gain
    3. Enabling Homeland security
    4. Oil and drugs in Afghanistan
    5. Massive insurance fraud
    6. The missing trillions of the Pentagon
    7. Added later: War in Iraq (not part of the original plan. See below )

    Sub goals:
    1. Making Silverstream software owned by Marsh the standard risk software by inviting all experts over the whole world to Windows of the World and eliminating competitors.
    2. Cantor/eSpeed was the #1 company in electronic bond-trading and suddenly Kyoto Mo takes over.
    3. Some of the companies who survived were in some sort of problems which gets solved.
    4. Massive destruction of evidence in the Enron scandal, the price inflation fraud for Silverstream, the WorldCom scandal many other scandals.

    9/11 and Iran-Contra
    There are many similarities between 9/11 and Iran-Contra. One could even say that the same blue print was used and the terror event added as a quick justification of their goals

    Objectives of Iran-Contra:
    1. October Surprise: President Ronald Reagan and Vice President George H.W. Bush
    2. Guerrilla warfare in Central and South America
    3. A war between Iraq and Iran

    Objectives of 9/11:
    1. Madame Butterfly and vote spoilage: President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard Cheney
    2. A war with Afghanistan
    3. Guerrilla warfare in Venezuela and Lebanon?

    Bonuses (W. tries to double H.W.)
    4. A war with Iraq
    Not in the original plan, however on September 12, 2001, George W. Bush told Richard A. Clarke: "Go back over everything, everything. See if Saddam did this. See if he's linked in any way"
    This is the probably reason why Germany, France and Canada bailed out, because they had given approval for Afghanistan and at least Germany played a part in the Venice scheme.

    5. If you can rig one election, might as well take the next one also.
    6. Iran? (option or coming soon...)

    Why the Pentagon had to be included as well

    By Minstrel Boy

    They say I shot a man named Gray and took his wife to Italy.
    She inherited a million bucks and when she died it came to me.
    I can't help it if I'm lucky. - Bob Dylan

    (...) At least among those with a mind for such things, it's fairly well- remembered that on September 10, 2001, Donald Rumsfeld made the shocking announcement that the Pentagon "couldn't track" $2.3 trillion of its transactions. "Iroquois" observes, "What's interesting to me is that he made his press release on a Monday. In DC, I always see bad news given on a Friday, usually late in the afternoon on Friday. The exception, of course, would be when someone happens to know that there is a far bigger story coming out."

    And we know that Flight 77, allegedly piloted by an incompetent, made an aerobatic, spiralling descent over Washington, effecting a 270-degree turn to strike the Pentagon from a western approach at ground level. The side struck was the only one with an exterior wall hardened against attack, and was relatively empty while renovation continued. (...)

    WTC building insurance and ownership
    What were the 3 companies who insured the WTC?

    AIG, Marsh and ACE. All run by Greenbergs at the time.

    They then sold stakes of the original contract to their competition, a process called reinsuring. Once the towers came down, the reinsurers got caught holding the bag.

    Who mortgaged the WTC? The Blackstone Group, headed by Peter J. Peterson, current head of the CFR. The Blackstone Group bought into Kroll in 1993 at the same time as AIG took majority control. Henry Kissenger sits on the board of the Blackstone Group.

    On July 24, 2001, 6 weeks prior to 9/11 Silverstein took control of the lease of the WTC following the Port Authority decision on April 26. Silverstein owned all the buildings. Later he wanted to collect twice on $3.6 billion of policies because it were two seperate events. Only ACE, XL Reach - strategic partners of AIG and currently owned by AIG - included a WilProp in their clauses, so Silverstein "only" got $5 billion.

    Larry Silverstein

    Larry "Pull It" Silverstein

    "I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

    - World Trade Center lease holder, Larry Silverstein, commenting on the collapse of Building 7 in the PBS documentary "America Rebuilds" that aired in September of 2002.

    Or watch a video clip of them here:

  • Victims and Survivors
    There are some strange victims and survivors in WTC. It makes sense that the lower floors survived, but the top floors have some anomalies as well.

  • Alliance Consulting Group (unknown yet)
  • AON Corporation (risk management)
  • Cantor Fitzgerald Securities + eSpeed (risk competitor)
  • CARR Futures (risk management)
  • Euro Brokers (risk competitor. the four survivors even got the advice not to go down)
  • Hotel and Restaurant Employees International (union)
  • Keefe, Bruyette and Woods, Inc. (unknown)
  • Sandler O'Neill and Partners (investor in eSpeed)
  • Windows on the World (Risk meeting and only a restaurant)

  • American Bureau of Shipping (destruction of evidence. Little affair with Spanish government)
  • Banco LatinoAmericano de Exportaciones Sud America (unknown)
  • Bank of America (inside trading)
  • Deutsche Bank (inside trading)
  • Dun & Bradstreet (their buddy in risk)
  • Fireman's Fund Insurance Company (used to be owned by Myron Du Bain, owner of Huffman Aviation)
  • Fuji Bank (doesn't make sense, since they were right on the impact area)
  • Kyoto Mo (competitor of Cantor Fitzgerald)
  • Lehman Brothers (inside trading)
  • Morgan Stanley (inside trading)
  • Port Authority of New York and New Jersey (84/3000, however 37 were cops so that leaves 47 including the executive director Neil D. Levin)
  • Raytheon Company (only lost four on the "planes")
  • Seabury and Smith (part of Marsh)
  • ZimAmerican Israeli Shipping Company (decided to move out one week earlier)

    Pre-9/11 inside traders
  • American Airlines (involved in the planes)
  • American Express Corp
  • American International Group (involved in Kroll/Marsh/CIA)
  • AMR Corporation
  • Axa SA (owner American Airlines. #2 global insurer)
  • Bank of America Corp (in WTC1)
  • Bank of New York Corp
  • Bank One Corp
  • Bear Stearns (Alan Greenberg was former CEO. Always tied up with the Bush family)
  • Boeing (involved in the planes)
  • Cigna Group
  • the Citigroup Inc. (did major scam in Brazil with Kroll)
  • CNA Financial
  • Carnival Corp
  • Chubb Group
  • Continental Airlines
  • Dean Witter & Co.
  • Deutsche Bank (CIA's favorite bank, since DB bought Alex Brown. Their building got partially destroyed as well. Biggest inside trader of them all)
  • General Motors
  • Genesis Intermedia (Adnan Khashoggi owner Huffman Aviation)
  • John Hancock Financial Services
  • Hercules Inc
  • L-3 Communications Holdings, Inc.
  • Lehman Brothers Holdings, Inc. (In WTC1 and WTC3. Links up with Blackstone group)
  • Lockheed Martin Corp.
  • Lone Star Technologies
  • LTV Corporation
  • Marsh & McLennan Cos. Inc. (In WTC1 as well as WTC2. Prime suspect in Who Killed John O'Neill.)
  • Martin Progressive
  • MetLife
  • Morgan Stanley (In WTC2)
  • Northwest Airlines
  • Progressive Corp.
  • Raytheon (In WTC2. Everybody in the building survived despite being above impact)
  • Royal Caribbean Cruises, Ltd.
  • Royal & Sun Alliance
  • Southwest Airlines
  • United Airlines (In the planes)
  • US Airways
  • Vornado Reality Trust
  • W.R. Grace
  • XL Capital Ltd. (Part of AIG.)

    Index of previous discussions
    Kroll (privatized CIA)

    Marsh (scene of the crime)

    Marsh Crisis Consultancy (terror group lead by Paul Bremer)

    Paul Bremer (Links to Marsh, Bush administration and Henry Kissinger. Spider in the web)

    AIG (Mother of all fraud)

    Risk management (How to become market leader by eliminating competition)
  • Silverstream Fraud Class Action June 20, 2001

    Greenberg cartel (A family that preys together, stays together)

    Al-Cokeda (Drugs for black ops)

    Venice (The new Mena)

    Mohammed Atta (Terrorist or drug dealer?)

    Willy Hilliard (CIA and drugs?)

    Adnan Khashoggi (Oliver North II)

    John O'Neill (We don't want an investigation into 9/11)

    Inside traders (How to make a profit by killing 3,000 people)

    Reinsurance/ownership of the World Trade Center:
  • Blackstone Group (Let the competitor of AIG pay for the damage)
  • Silverstein / Port Authority (Make billions by blowing up WTC)
  • Chubb / Allianz / AXA / Swiss Re (AIG's competition)
  • Ace / XL (owned by AIG) + WilProp (It's almost like they knew in advance)

  • Sibel Edmonds (Overheard Turkish intelligence talking about 9/11)

  • Richard Grove (Silverstream)

  • Indira Sangh (Windows on the World meeting)

    Other subjects (A-Z)
  • 2 tons of coke in Paris (al-Cokeda as well?)

  • 5.5 tons of coke in Mexico (Something's rotten in the town of Venice)

  • Afghanistan

  • Airlines (cartel / inside traitors)

  • American Bureau of Shipping (destruction of evidence)

  • Armor Holding (Two more teams for 9/11)

  • Alpha Firm (KGB enemies? Hell no, their former top team can joined us)

  • Anthrax (Add some bio terrorism as well)

  • AON Corporation (Risk management victim)

  • James R. Bath (Bush's former buddy. Strange that the name of his company was similar)

  • BEA Systems (Risk management victim)

  • Bush family (Partners of Greenberg family)

  • Buttonwood, the company that didn't exist
  • Cantor/eSpeed (Competition elimination during 9/11)

  • CARR Futures (Risk management victim)

  • CIA privatization (Independent, lawless, unrestricted. And they didn't even tell us)

  • CIA rendition (How to use drug planes for other illegal things as well)

  • Controlled Demolition (How come there were two companies at the scene who also specialize in controlled demolition)

  • Convar (How to buy a company to stop investigation into inside trading)

  • Defence Systems Limited (The UK top team was there as well)

  • Deutsche Bank (They may sound German, but they are very buddy buddy with the CIA)

  • Dow Jones & Company (Didn't miss a beat. Were they prepared?)

  • Doubles (How many Atta's were there?)

  • Enron (Destruction of evidence. Involvement of AIG)

  • Euro Brokers (Risk management victim)

  • Fireman's Fund (Another CIA front?)

  • Louis Freeh (We don't want a FBI director who wants to investigate)

  • Global Crossing (Destruction of evidence)

  • Guatanamo Bay (Heroin dealers and terrorist flight school owners are allowed to fly to Guatanamo Bay)

  • Insurance cartel (Oil cartel, airline cartel and insurance cartel?)

  • Iran-Contra (Almost the same script)

  • JFK (A history of treason)

  • JM/WAVE (The old terror team and what the effects were on South Florida)

  • Jerome Hauer (The man who appointed John O'Neill)

  • Thomas Pickard (The temporary director when everything was being planned)

  • Martin Progressive (A happy survivor)

  • Mena (The predecessor of Venice)

  • No planers (Optional. Are planes really necessary?)

  • Robert Mueller (He did a marvellous job covering up Panama and BCCI. Let him to 9/11 as well)

  • OKC (Another terror event which doesn't make sense)

  • Operation 40 (The first team of the shadow government and all the presidents it spawned)

  • Operation Northwoods (Similar to 9/11. Even though it was decades earlier)

  • Passenger lists (What happened to human greed?)

  • Pentagon (The other building with a mystery plane)

  • Promis (Are Saddam and Osama enemies?)

  • Rayed Mohammed Abdullah Ali (New Zealand deports a spy)

  • Sander O'Neill (Risk management victim)

  • Skyways (9/11 didn't change anything. Lots of drug dealing in Venice)

  • Standard Charter Bank (Terrorists and WTC7)

  • Stewart Airport (The weird detour of the planes)
  • Trilateral Investment (George W. Bush and AIG. Partners in fraud)

  • UAE Port deal (Port deal related to drug dealing)

  • Victims and Survivors (The winners and the losers of 9/11)

  • WTC 1993 (Prior history)

  • WTC Security (Let's put a Bush in charge of security and see what happens)

    Thanks to:
    Ty Rauber, Richard Grove, Sibel Edmonds, Daniel Hopsicker, Wayne Madsen, Michael Ruppert, Al Martin and many more...

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