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medienanalyse Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 03:05 AM
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13. can you read?
Edited on Sat Jul-09-05 03:18 AM by medienanalyse
you just ask: "could you perhaps show us an example of a photo of Atta that looks manipulated?"

That is your question. When I just stated that even videos could be manipulated since two decades. The sense of manipulation is falsofivation without being detected. That is why we do not rely on photos and do not discuss photo evidence.
With some exemptions, that is the different views of Ziad Jarrah that were promoted by Paul Thompson and with the exemption of stories of people who did not recognize Atta or Hanjour on the photos which they were asked to determine.

Your nect remark:
"I've seen a couple of photos of him with his family/at a party, he is smiling. Are these manipulated ones?"
Fine. The laughing Atta was on my websites entrance for about one year. It was not his family but Hamburg friends around. And there are some photos of Ziad Jarrah too. What I said: are these photos clear ones ? Are these photos explaining anything, proving anything ? Where is the connection to 9/11 ? Compare the amount to the amount of photos of Hitler. Where are the photos made in Florida.
And: where are the photos of all the others? We have 19 "hijackers" - but most of them only exist in form of one - bad - photo.

I am NOT, and again I say NOT going to tell you which photo is, was or will be mainipulated and why and why not. Because it is a senseless discussion.

Sense - less. No sense. Stop to ask for pixels and begin to ask why the FBI did not copy but destroy the photos of Atta in his Florida gym. Why we have only so little amounts of information of the "hijackers", about their families. Did they not have a home ? Comrades ? Schoolfriends? (I am not talking about the so-called pilots but about the others.)

Ask the Hopsicker questions: why was there no FBI to investigate Attas life in Florida, no FBI to talk with his girlfriend Amanda Keller? What kind of "investigation" is this ?

I just must add rereading my text that some veryvery intelligent reader might see a difference between my statements: "there was no FBI to investigate" and "the FBI destroyed the photo in Attas hym" (so they were there.) To explain it: it is a difference between rushing in, asking some questions, taking photos and belongings and rushing out and an investigation.
For example: it was Hopsicker who found out about Attas German friends. If the FBI were interested to get backrground and co-conspirators they should have got them ....
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