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Reply #8: That's a pretty sweeping and vicious statement you're making there. [View All]

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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 11:36 PM
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8. That's a pretty sweeping and vicious statement you're making there.
Normally I consider you quite a reasonable person, but that post sounds like something Avigdor Lieberman or one of the crazier settler groups might say.

I've known a lot of people who identified as "secular Jews" and they were just as secure in and committed to THEIR Jewish identity as anybody who identified as being religious.

And secular Judaism has MANY substantial underpinnings...a sense of solidarity with each other and with all oppressed peoples, a rigorous commitment to intellectual advancement, a deep personal commitment to compassion and social justice. Are you really going to dismiss all of THAT?

Besides which, Zionism was a secular Jewish movement for most of its history...so why denigrate the identity of the founders of Zionism?

And it's not even as if it's ONLY the secular Jewish contingent that has questioned Israeli security policies and its treatment of the Palestinians. A lot of those who identify as religious have done the same(and a lot of the secular ones, as far as that goes, have defended Bibi & his associates).



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