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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 07:59 PM
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245. One thing at a time, about the occupation...
Edited on Sat Dec-03-11 08:06 PM by shira
I'm against it and would love to have seen it end a decade ago in a peace deal Arafat rejected but later regretted. I hoped ending the Gaza occupation would lead to something better. I'm all for Israel's offer of a Palestinian state on 60% of West Bank land that Abbas rejected. However, I'm against anymore unilateral withdrawals. They don't work out so well. I'm not for all Israel becoming like Sderot. Once that happens, ALL hell will break loose and it won't just be bad for Israelis. It will be worse for Palestinians. Maintaining the occupation on at least 40% of the land is the lesser evil.

What's odd is that...

1. You still give Arafat the benefit of the doubt for rejecting a 2 state deal he later regretted. Worse, you're against Olmert's offer (similar to Geneva) which was an even better offer. Obviously those deals were fair enough, given Arafat regretted turning down the Clinton Initiatives and Olmert's offer went even further than that. Both deals would have ended the occupation but you object to them. Yet you say you're for 2 states and an end to occupation.


2. You realize the Gaza pullout was a failure but insist on more of the same WRT the West Bank and you don't give a shit what that would mean for Israelis and Palestinians as soon as the first kassam touches down in Jerusalem or Tel Aviv. And you say you're for peace.


3. You're against a Palestinian state on 60% of WB territory with temporary borders. And you say you're for a Palestinian state.


4. You say you don't demonize or delegitimize. And yet you give Israel zero credit for anything it has done. As if Israel has done nothing but intentionally tried to harm Palestinians and prevent a future Palestinian state from ever happening. The above measures taken by Israel prove Israel is not in the least preventing Palestinians from having their own state, free of occupation. But you continue to demonize Israel as if it's all their fault.


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