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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 06:47 AM
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210. And once again you failed to address the fear Israelis have of pulling out of the WB...
Edited on Sat Dec-03-11 07:00 AM by shira
Israel already did what you suggested they should do. They got out of Gaza in 2005 and they got rockets on southern Israel. They don't really look forward to all Israel becoming like Sderot without making sure there's a very good chance that WON'T happen again once the WB is left to the Palestinians.

So yes, the occupation is something Israel wants to end. The Israelis agreed to the Clinton Initiatives back in 2000, which Arafat rejected and then later regretted rejecting - so apparently it wasn't such a shitty deal. Abbas then rejected an even better deal in 2008 that was compared favorably to the Geneva Accords (by the Geneva Initiative people themselves). It's not Israel's fault the PA didn't come back with reasonable counter-offers to each proposal and publicize those offers to the world in order to demonstrate how much they want peace and an end to the conflict.

But this is all irrelevant to you. You prefer the demonizing narrative and that's why you refuse to empathize with the Israeli people who have good reason to fear ending the occupation. They're mostly all for it if given good reason to trust the rabidly insane hateful SOBs running the PA (and that's not demonizing at all, it's fact and it's criticism you yourself ironically prefer to stifle).

So back to the OP. The focus WRT Israel should be more on the truth of what Israel is all about rather than on the demonizing narrative you insist on. Reasonable people should give Israel more of the benefit of the doubt, realize Israel isn't pure evil and that there's another side to the story. Nowhere does the author imply that criticism of Israel should be stifled or that the occupation is justified. What I just wrote above implies that demonization of Israel should be stifled and that current occupation of the WB is justified in light of the fact the Gaza pullout was a failure that put Israeli lives in danger. But the author of the OP didn't do that, as you claim.
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