Reply #90: Israel's chief Rabbi doesn't hold to the same opinions as Lior, now does he?

[shira]

He's just arguing Lior shouldn't have been arrested. Most people in the USA would argue David Duke shouldn't be arrested for his incitement, but that doesn't mean they're bigots or on the US payroll sharing the same views as Duke. When you find the GOI paying bigots who incite violence, let me know. But speaking of incitement, when you support the nutjobs of the ISM, you're supporting loonies who believe resistance (terror) is legitimate. When you have no issue with the way in which Israel is demonized (the bogus Jenin massacre, bogus deliberate murder during OCL, bogus indiscriminate slaughter on the Marmara, intentional murder of Muhammad al Dura) and those things lead to antisemitism and Jewish deaths, are you not supporting incitement against Jews?

No need to pretend. Yr posts ooze of it. And I'm more than aware that you don't distinguish between the people and their leadership, which you constantly froth at the mouth about by using terms that fit the current Israeli government just as well...

Where do I demonize anyone? Unlike yourself, I know the difference between mere criticism and demonization. Hamas and the PLO are so horribly rightwing, it's easy to just criticize with facts without making anything up, without any hyperbole. When I bring up statistics about Palestinian views from PEW or Palestinian polling firms, how is that demonization?

Yr concept of what's Left and Right is some simplistic thing where if you agree with it, it's Left, and if it's Arab or you don't agree with it, it's Right.

Really now? If that's so, you should have no trouble explaining what's Leftwing about Palestinian society under Hamas or PLO rule.

Try to keep track of what the discussion was. I asked you if there was anything positive at all you could say about Palestine, and predicted that you wouldn't do it. And I was right.

I told you earlier if you could bring up positive things to say about Palestine under Hamas/PLO rule - anything liberal or progressive - I'd have no problem agreeing with you. I just can't think of anything. That doesn't mean I'm bigoted. It means Palestine under Hamas/PLO rule is very hard Rightwing and there's nothing liberal/progressive about it. I challenge you to prove otherwise.