Reply #86: but you do support nationalism over civil rights

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There is NO conflict between wanting an end to the Occupation now and wanting civil rights in Palestine now. The two things are totally unrelated,

on the contrary they are very related......they are attached at the hip at least for liberal

the occupation is about the civil rights/national rights of the Palestinians Give them a a new govt that does not have civil rights is simply exchanging one occupation for another..and this second one, the one your support is based on race...

if that is not your position, explain it

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good point:
nationalism"(a usage which makes it sound like supporting Palestinian self-determination is no different than being an apologist for Slobodan Milosevic)

nationalism without civil rights at its base is exactly that......and that is precisely what you are proposing. (see gaza for one example of Palestinian self determination)

and didn't you write above in a different post
Stop pretending that there can be a "positive tyrant".
yet that is what you are proposing for the Palestinians....a non democratic state.