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Shaktimaan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 04:27 PM
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63. Israel's right to exist is a big deal
because recognition of it is central to any lasting peace deal. It only matters now because the Arab states have always directly refuted Israel's right to exist, with the promise that they would eventually destroy the state. So before Israel can reasonably make peace with any of these states or groups that repeatedly tried to end her existence it is necessary for them to formally renounce their opposition to Israel's existence. The rules are the same for everyone. The PLO, which Fatah is a member of, has already recognized Israel's right to exist, which was the thing that made direct negotiations between the two finally possible.

If Israel is especially distrustful of Hamas it is because of Hamas' own statements and actions. They have repeatedly gone on record to attest to their continued opposition to Israel and to their promise to eventually liberate all of Palestine, from the river to the sea. For this reason they have stated their refusal to consider any permanent peace deals; the most they can offer are temporary hudnas.

We can theorize as to how many Palestinians would choose to return to the land within Israel, and if East Jerusalem is any indication it doesn't look like many would want to become Israeli. But we can't reasonably ask Israel to accept a condition that actually has the potential to destroy Israel and holds the likelihood of causing incredible strains and strife to its society. If Israel agrees to this then it loses control over regulating its own population and immigration. Israel is a small country, it would not take much unregulated Palestinian immigration to throw it into chaos, even if the immigrants arrive with the best of intentions. Realistically, these two groups have been fighting for 100 years and there's no question that groups like Hamas would take advantage of the situation. In short, it simply isn't feasible for Israel to accept without risking its entire society.

But back to my question... why is it such a big deal? Israel can admit guilt without agreeing to ROR. They can give reparations. And Palestinians can still have a right of return. They would just not be allowed to return to their exact, original village, but they could still return to Palestine.

I have my own theory. I think it has to do with that everyone knows that ROR to Israel is something that Israel simply can not agree to. It's a non-starter. In Hamas' case, it's an out. It isn't that they won't come to terms with Israel. It is that Israel keeps refusing their terms. It's like Jerusalem for Israel. No one who is serious about negotiating for peace with the Palestinians would demand that Israel keep all of Jerusalem. Because it isn't something that Palestine can agree to. Hamas doesn't really want peace forever. So they make impossible demands of Israel.
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