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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 08:09 PM
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98. Well..
I am quite sure the poster is referring to the long ago debunked nonsense published by Kellerman, not even MAIG or Brady cite that "study" any longer as it is so fallacious. The poster may not even know he/she is citing this nonsense, but since it is the only real source for this fallacy, it is apparent to those of us who have studied this issue.

Are you saying that a gun owner's loved one is less likely to die from their gun than the loved one of someone who doesn't own a gun? If so, you are obviously wrong.

Have any source to cite for this? Is it just a "common sense" "feeling"?

Or, are you saying that the gun owner is more likely to save the life of another than lose the life of a loved one by that gun?

* A 1993 nationwide survey of 4,977 households found that over the previous five years, at least 0.5% of households had members who had used a gun for defense during a situation in which they thought someone "almost certainly would have been killed" if they "had not used a gun for protection." Applied to the U.S. population, this amounts to 162,000 such incidents per year. This figure excludes all "military service, police work, or work as a security guard."(12)..(12)Paper: "Armed Resistance to Crime: The Prevalence and Nature of Self-Defense with a Gun." By Gary Kleck and Marc Gertz. Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, Fall 1995. http://www.law.northwestern.ed/jclc/backissues/86-1.htm...

* Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,<17> U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.

* A 1993 nationwide survey of 4,977 households found that over the previous five years, at least 3.5% of households had members who had used a gun "for self-protection or for the protection of property at home, work, or elsewhere." Applied to the U.S. population, this amounts to 1,029,615 such incidents per year. This figure excludes all "military service, police work, or work as a security guard."

* A 1994 survey conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that Americans use guns to frighten away intruders who are breaking into their homes about 498,000 times per year.


http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp

There are around 30k gun deaths annually. This includes suicide, murder, self defense, police, accidents, all causes..so yes, the latter is obviously true, the former is in reality false.
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