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russ1943 Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 12:48 AM
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62. Not exactly,
Sorry. Although I think rd kent is to be complemented for finding a site Ive referenced numerous times.
The site and link provided by rd kent is misleading and it just isnt what rd kent says it is, although it is understandable how it can be misunderstood.

The way statistics can be sliced, diced correlated etc makes for an occasional mistake, that is understandable.
Ive been interested in statistics regarding deaths by firearms and occasionally post here about some I think are relevant. The Table A, on Page 3, from where the statistics rd kent posted, arent what they seem.

Look at Page 1 where it states;

In 2005, the 10 leading causes of death were, in rank order: Diseases of heart; Malignant neoplasms; Cerebrovascular diseases; Chronic lower respiratory diseases; Accidents (unintentional injuries); Diabetes mellitus; Alzheimers disease; Influenza and pneumonia; Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome and nephrosis; and Septicemia. They accounted for about 77 percent of all deaths occurring in the United States.

It is simple enough to GOOGLE Salmonella to see that;

Three pathogens, Salmonella, Listeria, and Toxoplasma, are responsible for 1,500 deaths each year,

Approximately 600 deaths are caused by Salmonella infections in the U.S. every year.. /

Each year approximately 40,000 cases of salmonella (salmonellosis) are reported in the United States; many more go unreported. Unfortunately,600 US patients die annually.

Read more at Suite101: Salmonella Poisoning: Symptoms, Causes and Treatment

Salmonella infection is responsible for approximately 600 deaths in the US each year.

At about 600 deaths in the US annually there is no way that that cause of death could be the Number one cause of death in the US!

It would take too much time to fully explain why this is listed the way it is and I cant claim to fully understand it myself.
I do understand that the National Vital Statistics Reports U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
National Center for Health Statistics National Vital Statistics System are a credible reputable source for statistics regarding deaths from a variety of causes although it can be difficult to find the pertinent data.

These Deaths: Final Data Reports are issued periodically and revised routinely.
The 2006 Volume 57, Number 14 April 17, 2009 Deaths: Final Data for 2006 at;
Is the most recent Report with the statistics, data and charts germane to the fireams discussion.

Tables 18, 19 20 and especially Table 29s six pages are the ones Ive referenced and linked numerous times in the dungeon previously.

Injury mortality by mechanism and intent
In 2006, a total of 179,065 deaths were classified as injury-related (Table 18).
Motor-vehicle trafficIn 2006, motor-vehicle traffic-related injuries resulted in 43,664 deaths, accounting for 24.4 percent of all injury deaths (Table 18)..
PoisoningIn 2006, 37,286 deaths occurred as the result of poisonings, 20.8 percent of all injury deaths (Table 18)
FirearmIn 2006, 30,896 persons died from firearm injuries in the United States (Tables 1820), accounting for 17.3 percent of all injury deaths that year.. Mortality patterns vary considerably by state (Table 29).
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