Reply #24: You got it exactly right.

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The antis have run out of maneuvering room on this one.

History supports an originalist view that the 2nd applies to individual citizens.
However for the sake of the antis lets pretend it doesn't.

Heller references both originalist view and contemporary view that the 2nd ensures not just defense of state but also defense of self so EVEN IF an originalist view doesn't support individual RKBA (which it does) the 2nd STILL DOES.

If we give the antis 2 mulligans and say both originalist view doesn't support RKBA AND there is no contemporary support for the 2nd the 14th still applies.

I guess you have noticed you only get drive-bys.

They have no logical arguments. They can't reach any conclusions based on history.
They can't explain why it even makes sense that the 1st, 3rd, 4th & 5th apply to individuals & to the states but the 2nd doesn't.

So they just make unsupported statements
"guns kill"
"<something about penis>"
"only in a militia"

of course the weak rebuttal should show that they haven't even thought about it.
They just want it to be. Like I want a million dollars but have no logical reason why someone owes me it.