Reply #13: Great post, javaman, thanks for bringing it back to life!

[govegan]

I have seen many studies that show that something like 50% of our energy usage (US) is tied to animal agriculture. Whatever way you slice it, the amount of foreign oil that fills America's meal ticket is astounding.

Should we try to count all of the synthetic fertilizers, antibiotics, irrigation to feed animals, etc.?

We should not forget that the "energy sucking" and "pollution belching" has largely been the result of the neo-fascist corporate elites and politicians pushing the Western life style across the world.

However, I don't see it as a "race against ourselves," perhaps because I do not consider the race that way exactly.

This is a political race, with the welfare of all peoples at stake.

(just picture a running person smilie, I can find one right now)

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