Reply #34: Some people think of the South as the rebellion in that war, I think they were a form of status quo

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There is something I think on often about the civil war, the term 'rebs' the term comes from rebellion. It always has negative thoughts in many groups, but there are times in the world were rebellion against bad is actually not rebellion. Not in that case, but there is to much attachment of rebellion and rebs and the confederacy in much thoughts.

Many people think on things like the civil war as a fight of the north against rebellion, I think it was against ideas of aristocracy, and lack of empathy and slavery. The rebellion of 1776 was the same Northern fight while they were in rebellion also, as were many partisan movements in many places.

It is hard to comment on Civil war because of the wrong of the confederacy, but I think on it as non status quo versus status quo. The Civil war was actually against the status quo, and a change in society, that unfortunately led to war, in that way the North could be seen as the rebs by changing the rules in the south. Very interesting thought on what is rebellion, and when it is good or bad, in context it has to be compared to the system that is the status quo, to have a view of good or bad.

The Northern rebellion against the souths ideas of what is acceptable seems to be the better rebellion in that story. While the South trying to hang onto a bad status quo was the establishment.

Being able to think of Rebellion within the context of the system, allows for seeing the difference between those that fight for freedom, and those that want to oppress. The rebel part is only about what is the status quo at some moment in time, not about being good or bad in itself.


It allows thinking on songs and movies with rebellion in them without the stigma that gets attached by many people.

And it allows for enjoying songs like this by assigning context.

Rebel Yell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToeY7MkCm0c

Notice the wrong part of the song? I refused to do that. But to be fair to the singer, he could not sing that if he did not have it.

And yea I probably had Civil War relatives, although I don't follow stuff about heritage.






Thunderstruck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvoeeq-BH4w