Reply #58: Yes somewhat

[undergroundpanther]

The dude getting chest work has the right to use the technology that is there. No shame in that.A weightlifter who sculpts his body has a right to use body building technology to do it.

Tattoos are hard work,but not in the same way lifing weights is.In both changes you endure significant pain,quite a bit and you go back for many sessions.Pierces require care and caution until the heal.Lip pierces can be tricky.. The pain you endure for surgury or for tattoos is a labor of love. A body builder is no more virtous in his route of body change than the old lady or Cat is.They lead to the same thing,self transformation into something you want.