Reply #13: It was a TV show

[sweetheart]

Frankly, i don't dispute your argument. I agree that halucinogens
(including the ones that are not mushrooms like Lysergic Acid Dyethylamide-25Right, and Lysergic Acid amides from Morning glory
seeds and hawaiian woodrose seeds) among others... play a very
important role in self discovery.

That said, if you need mushrooms to get aware after moving on to
meditation, you either are not meditating, are stuck in a rut, or
its been a damn hard year/incarnation. Pharmaceuticals have their
place, and it is a small box in self discovery, not the basis of
awakening. That was my point, that if they become central to
the matter, the long term awakening benefits are slim.

Enlightenment is called "the natural state", not "trippin on shrooms". I encourage whatever it takes for people to wake up, and
if halucinogens are your path, then ain't it cool.... but that is not
all folks, and they do have wearing effects when done too much over
too many years.

The american indians, i order to do peyote, would be out in a
sweatlodge in the desert having fasted, and deliberately sought out
a vision quest. This is wholly more formal and preparatory than
eating some mushrooms out of cow pies in the texas pasture.