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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 11:08 AM
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16. You raise some valid points.
However, to be accurate, JFK's failures in the Bay of Pigs occured very early in his administration, and resulted in his making clear he would not be willing to accept "intelligence" on face value again.

While it is possible to argue that he would have followed a similar path in Vietnam, there is significant evidence that he planned to end the US involvement early in his second term. That also shows, of course, that he was willing to continue to send soldiers to war for what appear to be at least partially political purposes.

You are absolutely right about Bush not fallng for bad intel. His conversion to the neocon philosophy was more rapid than Cassius Clay's conversion to the Nation of Islam, to use a JFK-era example. As Paul Wolfowitz admitted, the decision to invade Iraq was forced to use the "WMD threat" as the vehicle because of bureaucracy.

One advantage that JFK had over LBJ and certainly GWB wass a grasp of foreign policy and world history. Johnson was a legendary figure in the House and Senate, but did not have the interest in world politics that Kennedy had from an early age. Bush is perhaps the least well prepared of modern presidents.
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