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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 11:45 AM
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A few words about the new rules for starting threads in the GD forum.
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Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 04:26 PM by Skinner
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ON EDIT: The new rules have been posted at the top of the General Discussion forum, here.

Now that the vote is over, the yes votes outnumber the no votes, and we will be implementing the new rules shortly, with a few modifications. We think that these changes will not be controversial because they serve to better clarify the rules, and they address one of the most serious concerns raised by DU members.

Changes to the rules.

1. We are getting rid of the entire "preamble" to the rules, because we think people won't read it anyway. In it's place we will just add a couple quick sentences.

2. In rule 2, we are adding the word "shared" before "political opponents" to better clarify when we may allow exceptions.

3. Due to the number of comments (from people on both sides of the issue) that rule five was a bad rule, we are completely ditching it and replacing it with a rule that is narrowly targeted to the problem it was intended to address -- flame wars that spread to multiple threads. The new text of the rule is: "You may not start a new discussion thread in order to continue a current or recent flame war from another thread. The moderators have the authority to lock threads in order to contain flaming on a particular topic to only one thread at a time." After much discussion, we decided that there was simply no way we could possibly enforce rule five as it was previously written.

Helpful hints for complying with these rules.

We thought it might be helpful to provide you with a short list of suggestions to give you an idea of what sort of behavior we expect from you. This is not a complete list, so you should not assume that your thread will be automatically acceptable if you follow these helpful hints. We just thought these might be useful...

Imagine yourself in a room full of people who disagree with you. The doors are locked, and theyre angry. ;-) State your comments in a way that is likely to persuade them, rather than antagonize them.

Avoid using rude or condescending names for prominent progressives. (ie: Coward Dean, Weasley Clark, Tom Dasshole, Saint Ralph, Holy Joe, etc.)

Avoid using rude or condescending names for groups of progressives. (ie: Clarkies, Greenies, Deanholes, etc.)

Avoid broad-brush smears against groups of progressives.

Try to avoid navel-gazing threads about Democratic Underground, its members, or the state of the General Discussion forum.

Dont deliberately break the rules. Dont start threads to test the limits of the rules or to test the admins.

Dont start threads in the General Discussion forum to complain about the rules or the moderators. If you have a concern, you should ask a question in the Ask the Administrators forum, or email the administrators directly.

If you know your thread topic will not be permitted in the General Discussion forum, do not post it. Remember that your topic may be permitted in another forum, so try posting elsewhere.

A plea for healing.

People have fought hard on both sides of this issue over the last few days. I have no doubt that everyone is sincere, and I know that you are motivated by your love of Democratic Underground and your desire to do the right thing for this place. Now that the vote is over, I hope that we can set our differences aside and remember that we are all on the same side here.

I know that some of you will want to continue this fight, even though it is now over. Please do not do that. I expect all of you to comply with the new rules, and I expect that people will not deliberately try to undermine them or undermine the administrators. I hope that you will trust us enough to know that we have no intention of ruining Democratic Underground. If we decide that the rules are not serving their intended purpose, then we'll revisit the issue.

If you have any questions, please post them in this thread.

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