Reply #298: HALLELUJAH for your post

[Tinoire]

I don't have time to put this tactfully because I have very little time right now but HALLELUJAH for your post.

Here's the part I don't know how to be tactful about. The disappointment you expressed is the same many of us have been feeling about how far to the right this board has shifted with the accommodation of so many "moderates".

About 2 months ago a concerned thread by an old time DUer expressing dismay at all the right wing talking points being seen on DU was locked. I didn't have time to post in it but many people did and they expressed the same disappointment you just did.

Please Skinner, introduce some sort of a member moderating system before it's too late because with so many people flying under the radar, these RW talking points are all too common and doing great harm to what you're/we're trying to accomplish. Their tolerated presence has slowly made the board less of an imperative for me.

I used to feel very in sinc with the majority of DUers and trusted that that we were all working with one goal in mind- no more. I haven't felt that for the last year. We're marching to our own doom with all this accomodation and I'd rather not see those accommodation points being openly pushed here. A lot of your old-timers are tired of fighting it- basically thrown in the towel because we've not only felt powerless to stop it but felt that we were even fighting some mods. A case in point is the war. Many posters have noticed that there's been in increase in pro-war talking points but anytime it's mentioned, moderators step in and shriek "where, where, definitely not on this board" and that's BS- we see it, we smell it, we read it. We get tired of going after those posters only to see our posts get deleted as they Vichy crowd grows stronger and more empowered to continue with their RW points.

When you, from your 'not-down-in-the-weeds' vantage view, feel this disappointed also, you can bet your ass there's a problem. A HUGE problem.

I'm sorry for your disappointment but welcome to the club and please let's do something about it.

I remember this board when it first started. Elad's posts were the kind of thoughtful ones that attracted me to this forum but now I read such hateful posts here against non-mainstream-aligned dems that I clutch my head in grief wondering how the hell did this happen and why the hell are mods tolerating and even playing that hateful game.

It may be time to take a walk down nostalgia alley Skinner. Remember the first posts on this board, how thoughtful they were and how many of those first committed posters we no longer see. Their commitment didn't disappear because they were right by your side when no one else cared but where are they now? Disappointed, that's where. Disappointed that the board has shifted so far to the right that Roberts is being pushed as "ok". He's not ok and it's time to do something about why so many people feel comfortable telling others to accept him because he's "ok".

Now I'm late for my meeting! Sorry about just laying it out and not being very tactful. I hope you, and others, see this post in the concerned spirit it was meant.

No. No. No. Roberts is NOT ok. And shame on anyone who says he is. Also SHAME on anyone who says we should throw in the towel and accept it. SHAME, SHAME on all those "we just need to accept it" posters. I've accepted as much as I'm going to take and DO NOT march with the Vichy squad! You've "accepted" so much that we now have Bush for a second term and I'm done "accepting" or putting up with these Vichy right wing talking points. Don't want to fight these ass-holes? Just want to roll over and play nice puppy because Hitler is a dog lover after all? Shut up and get out of the way then. But you won't shut up. I only wish to hell the mods would start shutting you because the same accommodation squad that's gotten more emboldened everyday is the one now daring to push the RW point that "Roberts is ok". Just like Powell and McCain were "ok". :puke:

You're disappointed Skinner? I can't tell you how disappointed and broken-hearted I am.