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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 12:37 PM
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26. Sen. Ted Kennedy was supposed to have been aboard the flight.
Of course, losing two liberals in one plane crash would be a real coincidence. Odd how hard it is to find articles about that aspect of the story these days... Here's CNN's reportage. Please note how the weather was so bad even the NTSB people couldn't fly into Eleveth.

Senator, family members killed in Minnesota plane crash

Sunday, December 29, 2002 Posted: 4:54 PM EST (2154 GMT)

EVELETH, Minnesota (CNN) -- Democratic Sen. Paul Wellstone, his wife Sheila and daughter Marcia died Friday in a small plane crash near Eveleth, Minnesota, that also killed three staff members and two pilots.

The plane went down in snowy, frozen rain and then burst into flames in a wooded area about 7 miles east of Eveleth-Virginia Municipal Airport. Officials said the last contact with the plane was at 10:20 a.m. CDT when the plane was about 2 miles from the airport.


The weather in the Eveleth area was so bad hours after the crash that a 12-person National Transportation Safety Board team was to fly from Washington into Duluth instead of Eveleth.


Gee. That's what turd Wolf Blitzer said from the studio, correcting the CNN reporter on the scene who said the weather was OK and that other planes reported no weather problems.


Someone who was aboard, played a role in 9-11. Michael Guess, the late co-pilot, had been a flight instructor at the Minneapolis flight school made famous by Zaccarias Moussaoui. The so-called "Twentieth Hijacker" is alleged to have downloaded Boeing 747 data from the co-pilot's CD-ROMs. Of course, the FBI didn't want to have anything to do with actually using the FISA provisions in the case BEFORE 9-11. But, hey! What are suicides, accidents and sudden illness for?

Co-pilot played minor role in story of Moussaoui

Associated Press, 26 October 2002

MINNEAPOLIS - The co-pilot who died in the crash of Sen. Paul Wellstone's plane played a minor role in the case of Zacarias Moussaoui, the alleged Sept. 11 conspirator who briefly attended an Eagan flight school.

Co-pilot Michael Guess had performed administrative work at the Pan Am International Flight Academy last year as he continued accumulating flying hours. There he met Moussaoui, the school's most infamous student.

Two former Pan Am program managers who tipped the FBI to Moussaoui's suspicious behavior at the school in August 2001 told the Star Tribune that Guess inadvertently gave Moussaoui unattended access to a computer program on flying a 747 jumbo jet.

One of the ex-managers said Guess placed a CD-ROM containing the 747 software at a work station in advance of one of Moussaoui's training sessions, before his flight instructor arrived. After Moussaoui was arrested and the FBI searched his belongings, they found the proprietary program copied on his laptop computer, the ex-manager said.



Flight School Warned F.B.I. of Suspicions

The New York Times
December 22, 2001

WASHINGTON, Dec. 21 An instructor at a Minnesota flight school warned the F.B.I. in August of his suspicion that a student who was later identified as a part of Osama bin Laden's terror network might be planning to use a commercial plane loaded with fuel as a weapon, a member of Congress and other officials said today.

The officials, who were briefed by the school, said the instructor warned the Federal Bureau of Investigation in urgent tones about the terrorist threat posed by the student, Zacarias Moussaoui. Mr. Moussaoui, a French citizen of Morrocan descent, was indicted last week on charges of conspiring in the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

Representative James L. Oberstar of Minnesota, who received the briefing and is the ranking Democrat on the House Transportation Committee, said the instructor called the bureau several times to find someone in authority who seemed willing to act on the information.

Mr. Oberstar said the instructor's warnings could not have been more blunt. The representative said, "He told them, `Do you realize that a 747 loaded with fuel can be used as a bomb?' "


Did the Right-Wing or CIA or Someone Close
to Bush Tamper with Sen. Wellstones plane?

by Jackson Thoreau October 25, 2002

My first hunch about Sen. Paul Wellstone's tragic plane crash less than two weeks before this pivotal election is that the plane was tampered with by right-wingers, possibly the CIA, either directly or through some psychic mind games.
I'm not a big conspiracy nut who worries about this kind of thing all the time - just an average one like Oliver Stone who knows there's something sinister and weird going on in our world - but I have done extensive research into the 1963 JFK assassination in Dallas. The right-wing-CIA was heavily involved in that, from Oswald's CIA connections to the Dallas mayor at that time being the brother of the former CIA deputy director who lost his job after the Bay of Pigs fiasco and blamed that on JFK. The Dallas mayor also changed the parade route on that fateful day so it would go right by the grassy knoll and triple overpass, where JFK met his death.

I have interviewed numerous people who report weird things that occurred during that time, such as key witnesses dying in strange ways like mysterious plane crashes and being run over by trains in the middle of the night. I have written numerous stories on this and covered it in my book on Dallas history - and have received my share of threatening phone calls, mail opened, and the like to know I was stepping on some powerful toes. But I know how to mentally protect myself - two can play at that game. I continue to pursue the truth.

There were also numerous JFK murder witnesses committing suicide in the months after that tragedy. The CIA has done extensive mind control work for decades - I know several psychics personally who have worked for the CIA - and could possibly convince someone through such mind games to commit suicide. Could they psychically work on making a plane crash? Who knows. Anything is possible.


Bush, for his part, issued some strange comments immediately after the crash, even for him. He called Wellstone - who was an articulate, energetic, intelligent political science professor for 21 years before he was a senator - a "plain-spoken fellow." He said he wanted to issue his "condolences for the loss of the Senate." Did he mean the Democrats' sudden loss of the Senate? Did he know something more than he let on?

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