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40. Have you seen "Digby Blog's" latest on "Regionalism" and how it's
Edited on Mon Feb-28-05 05:24 PM by KoKo01
affected American Policy? There's a great link to Michael Lind article about this, plus Lincoln's Address and some other comments for perspective. A VERY LONG READ...and it's left hanging a bit. With your heritage I wonder if you could do something more with what Digby's started...rather than what you are working on...Here are the links...but you need to go to the site and scroll down to Lincoln and carry it from there. I'm just giving a little snip... Instead of "Three Empires" what if it's just a continuity of American "Regionalism?"

WHY ARE THEY SO ANGRY? is Digby's blogging with links. I wonder if you couldn't follow up on this and expand on it. Rather than "Empire" couldn't it be "Why ARE they so angry," with your own special Pitt insight? :shrug:

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(Embedded link from Digby in his musings:}
Civil War by Other Means

By Michael Lind
Whitehead Senior Fellow

Foreign Affairs
September 30, 1999

AMERICA'S DOVISH NORTH AND HAWKISH SOUTH

SNIP---

REGIONALISM AND AMERICA'S EARLY WARS

Regions in the United States are notoriously difficult to define. The best guide, perhaps, is provided by speech regions. Most linguists identify four regional dialects of American English: northern, midland, highland southern, and coastal southern. The Greater New England or northern speech region, according to the historian David Hackett Fischer, includes "New England, upstate New York, northern Ohio and Indiana, much of Michigan and Wisconsin, the northern plains, and the Pacific Northwest, together with islands of urban speech at Denver, Salt Lake City, and San Francisco." Since the late 1700s, this area has been the heartland of opposition to foreign wars and the U.S. military establishment. Pro-war, pro-military attitudes have been strongest in the areas identified with coastal southern speech (the Tidewater South) and, to a lesser degree, in the Highland South, from West Virginia through Tennessee to Texas.

The pattern of Greater New England's opposition to wars and the opposite tendency of the South, especially the Tidewater South, to be strongly interventionist first manifested itself in the earliest years of the Union. During the War of 1812, the hawks tended to be southerners like Henry Clay of Kentucky and John C. Calhoun of South Carolina. Congress' vote on the war followed sectional lines, not partisan lines. In the House of Representatives, the northern-and-mid-Atlantic-dominated Federalist Party voted unanimously against the war; the southerners who controlled the Democratic-Republican Party solidly backed it.

This pattern reemerged in subsequent conflicts. Southerners generally favored the western expansion of the United States; northerners disproportionately opposed it. In the 1830s the most extreme American pacifists broke away from the American Peace Society to form a new organization that forswore the use of force even in self-defense. Its name tells the story: the New England Non-Resistance League.


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The Resentment Tribe

The other day I rhetorically asked, "Why are they so angry?" and Matt Stoller replies :

(The whole deal on Digby's thought process about this with the links is here :)
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com /
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