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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 05:14 PM
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59. fortunately this never arises since...
...the older I get the more aware I am that we never "know anything for a fact."

It is easy to delude ourselves that such-and-such must be able to know something or do something to make a difference. It is easy to speculate that this person might be a terrorist who might know something that could help.

But until the person has had a fair trial in front of a jury of his peers, you don't KNOW anything -- and, considering some of the trials I've witnessed, you still don't KNOW.

"If I had a terrorist in custody and he knew about an atrocity about to be committed I wonder if a gun muzzle to the head is so unjustifiable"

Think about the logic of this for a moment. If you KNOW he knows, then YOU also know, and you don't need to torture him, you need to get busy dealing with the problem. If you are just SPECULATING that he might be a terrorist who might know are just as likely to get bogus information as not. Maybe more likely.

How many times have LEOs right here in the U.S. felt they were justified to use torture to get a criminal (often black) to admit to a crime in order to preserve public safety. The cops KNEW the criminal was guilty. We all KNEW the Central Park "wilding boys" were guilty. They had to be jailed to preserve the joggers of New York. Yet they were innocent. And DNA evidence has proved it.

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