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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 01:20 AM
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126. Well, you seem to have invented a conspiracy theory that I didn't say
I never said the Dems did this to hack votes. I said the Dems in some places bought these machines and are defending them to the death. Your analysis for motives sounds about right. I would guess that if there was a motive other than stupidity followed by ass-covering, it would be kickbacks.

Now, as for this point:

3) Logic test: If it's true there are all these security vulnerabilities, anyone from any political persuasion could hack the vote. Why would the Dem leadership want that? It would mean loss of control to any hacker from any political or nonpolitical persuasion.

I believe that the security vulnerabilities are so significant that anyone from any political persuasion can use the crappy software to manipulate votes.

Dem leadership seems to have been mentally lazy on this one. It is an onerous learning curve, and it's easy to just lean on one or two people, who may not do a great job of explaining the risks. But there is no doubt that the Dems fell apart when it came to figuring out how to monitor the central tabulator, and the computer scientists fell apart -- or more likely, had some sort of agenda -- when they decided to minimize central tabulator vulnerabilities and failed to warn of the modem risks.

Of course, academics are notoriously weak on Windows anyway, and the security experts Black Box Voting works with are not academics, but are on the front lines of security for Fortune 500 companies, computer companies, healthcare, and yes, government agencies. They are the real deal, and they have been brilliant in helping us come up with an effective way to create auditing workarounds to help spot fraud.

Whatever the reason, we need to stop the hackers cold, and it's no big deal to disconnect the modems, so we should just do it.

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