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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 03:19 PM
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76. Fascinating -- and you could just as easily be talking about...
..."Multiple Maniacs," one of John Waters' earlier films -- and the one that rocks most Catholics (and ex-Catholics) to the core.

In particular, there's a scene in which Divine and Mink Stole perform... ah, a "sex act" involving a Rosary... inside a church. Shots of this scene (which seems to go on forever, proportionate to the viewer's sense of unease) are intercut with an equally interminable and downright gory crucifixion re-enactment.

Waters' purpose for this shock? As he writes in his book, "Shock Value," it flushed Catholicism out of his system.

If Gibson is "religiously insane," then Waters is "insanely anti-religion" -- but if descriptions of Gibson's crucifixion are accurate, the line between the two is very thin indeed.

Just for the record, and for those unfamiliar with Waters (I'm sure there must be a few who have never indulged in "Divine madness"), it should be noted that Waters is the archetypal gay man that makes the Religious Right crazy: a nonconformist who delights in twisting the "Leave It to Beaver" mentality so far that he ends up exposing the underlying perversions of "traditional" society. (Think "Blue Velvet" + "Natural Born Killers," but much darker, funnier, and far more shocking.)

Say what you like about Waters' taste (or lack of), but no one can deny that his characters are honest about their own motives. ("We kidnap young girls, have our butler impregnate them, and then sell the babies to lesbian couples" ... "Crime is beauty!" ... "Being executed is like winning the Academy Award!") Nobody ever lies, or even tries to hide their true motivations in a Waters movie. Waters' truth may make you sick, but it is his truth.

I wonder if the same can be said for Gibson?

Now I'm almost curious to see Gibson's film, just to make a few comparisons. Not curious enough to pay money to see it, mind you. I won't put money in that man's pocket.

Chookie, who's the artist who's done the S&M comparisons? Is there something I can see or read on the Web?

Great post, btw -- very thought-provoking!
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