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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 11:50 PM
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90. Happyslug, your calculations are so far off it's pathetic.
You refer to catching one client who is defrauding the government. Oh yeah, that's not much money for sure. But if that investigator catches 30 in one year then the tab mounts up real fast.

There are also huge peripheral benefits from investigating and prosecuting fraud including deterrent factor--if people understand that they can actually be prosecuted, fined, or jailed for fraud, they might not do it. Then there's the factor of taxpayers' confidence that they are getting the kind of results from their tax dollars that they hope for. That is incalculable.

I laughed my ass off at your claim that fraud in social services is only a tiny fraction of what is paid out. How many BILLIONS of dollars are paid out every year in payment for things like housing assistance, medical coverage, child coverage, education, food stamps, etc? I guess you think that rooting out MILLIONS of dollars of fraud just isn't worth the effort.

There was a time when I would have said what you say about there being little abuse of the system. Now I know better. As a middle-class American who associated mainly with other middle-class Americans who were professionals I rarely ran into anyone who was abusing the social services system. Rarely, but still there were at least two bona fide cases that I found out about on my own and by accident--that is without trying to find them.

When I changed jobs and became acquainted with many more lower middle-class and blue-collar hourly workers I began to hear stories about people who were gaming the system. So I started paying attention. It is mind-boggling how many people are taking advantage of the system. Whole families do it. They learn the gig and pass it on to their kids and other relatives who want a free ride. I AM NOT referring to people who are truly disabled or who are mentally unable to work. I'm talking about healthy, so-called average Americans who think it's okay to screw Uncle Sam out of money since so much money is wasted by our gummint. And what's really amazing is how many of the abusers are white, RIGHT-WINGERS.

You can live in your little fantasy world if you want. I prefer to see the reality and call it like it is.

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