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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 02:30 PM
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52. Respectfully, you may still not know...
I don't know what you mean by "...if I say anthing else, I'll violate some DU rules..." except to say that you are holding back a sweeping insult or condemnation of fellow progressives/liberal Democrats. That kind of stuff the mods frequently let go by, IMO. And "Nothing in my post could possibly have led you to do that."

To kitchen tables and gun shows. Gun shows are rental halls affairs wherein a manner of vendors may buy table space, typically one or more tables for one or more days, paid in advance. These vendors sell everything from tie-dye shirts to flintlocks to venison jerky. Now, among those folks are "kitchen table" dealers; folks who are NOT Federal Firearms Licensees. They do not (and CANNOT) access the NICS system, yet they have the legal right to sell all non-exempt arms (no sawed-offs, no full-autos, no "silencers," etc.). They cannot knowingly sell arms to criminals or mental incompetents; those which do are subject to arrest and prosecution. But they are not part of the NICS system. So shutting down a gun show is merely saying: "If you individual sellers/buyers meet up in the basement of the convention center, it is illegal. Stay at home or use E-Bay instead." That would be scrutinized by the courts as a violation of the 1st as well as the 2nd. It stands scrutiny here as well: What is the purpose of shutting down a gun show, if it is a legal gathering place for legal gun sales? Is it a big symbolic victory "over guns?" Is it "ridding the public of a moral eyesore?" Is law and policy-making the proper place for flashy political/prohibitionist statements?

The data indicate that less than 1% of convicted crims/thugs get their guns from "gun shows." Too many cops, I guess.

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