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Reply #70: Sorry, what you call being "honest here," I call several other things, none of which are positive. [View All]

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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 07:19 PM
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70. Sorry, what you call being "honest here," I call several other things, none of which are positive.
Edited on Sun Dec-04-11 07:31 PM by No Elephants
And I find it downright gobsmacking that you assume that someone who rejects the usefulness of illegal profiling does so only because they are not being honest.

Being honest here, someone who does not want to go through a scanner has to be searched some other way, period, regardless of age or anything else. And letting her through like greased lightning only because of illegal profiling would have been thinking very narrowly, as well as dangerously.

You are also mistaken about the odds. First, not all terrorists are Muslim extremists. Second, not all Muslim extremists are Arabs. Some are even white (or "white looking"), American born women of a "certain age." Others are Filipino, Indonesian, Hawaiian, French, British, etc.

If I wanted to smuggle something aboard any means of transportation, I WOULD choose a person least likely to fit an illegal kind of profile. Doing otherwise would be the height of foolish arrogance on my part.

I might even choose someone, say, like me. And I may not be alone in that view because someone did approach me, albeit not in an airport, but in a bus station.

Yes, there is the lone nutter. But, even assuming that all lone nutter terrorists are Muslim, not all of them can be identified as such via illegal profliling.

Indeed Richard Colvin Reid did fit any illegal terrorist profile, unless English mums and Jamaican dads of African descent add up to an Islamic jihadist profile in someone's twisted mind.

Ditto Jose Padilla, a American born man, who converted to Islam. Or maybe anyone who has ever been in prison and/or a temple anywhere in the world should be profiled, too?

Oops. does having Arab countries on your passport count? If so, I would have been guilty of traveling to some of them at several points in my life.

Illegal profiling is like leaving the barn door wide open while struggling to be meticulous about putting misquito netting on the window.

Sorry, but a propensity to think in terms of illegal profiling is far likelier to get people killed than thinking in terms of acts and omissions, what is said and unsaid, etc.

Oh, and speaking of being honest, yes, you have been nothing but positive about illegal profiling so far. If you don't want to call it sdvocating, though, fine.
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