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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 02:16 AM
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32. Jordan and Palestine and Israel were all the same
Edited on Tue Jul-21-09 02:20 AM by JDPriestly
land pretty much until the partition. If the Palestinians want to argue that Israel should not exist and they should have their own state based on their history, then, yes, they would have to be part of Jordan. That's the history. There was the Ottoman Empire which included all three areas and much more until the division of the French and British mandate areas. The British mandate area included pretty much the current areas we know as Jordan, Israel and the Palestinian Territories. It was all one. So, Israel would be not be incorrect in asserting that Jordan and Palestine are one state.

With the break-up of the Ottoman Empire at the end of World War I, the League of Nations and the occupying powers chose to redraw the borders of the Middle East. The ensuing decisions, most notably the SykesPicot Agreement gave birth to the French Mandate of Syria and British Mandate of Palestine. More than 76% of the British Mandate of Palestine was east of the Jordan river and was known as "Transjordan".

The country was called "Transjordan", under British supervision until after World War II. In 1946, the British requested that the United Nations approve an end to British Mandate rule in Transjordan. Following this approval, the Transjordanian Parliament proclaimed King Abdullah as the first ruler of the Hashemite Kingdom of Transjordan. Abdullah I continued to rule until a Palestinian Arab assassinated him in 1951 as he was departing from the al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem.

During the 1948 Arab-Israeli war, Jordan captured the area of Cisjordan now called the West Bank (also referred to by Israelis as Judea and Samaria), which it continued to control in accordance with the 1949 Armistice Agreements. Abdullah thereupon took the title King of Jordan, and he officially changed the country's name to the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan in April 1949. The following year he annexed the West Bank, but only two countries recognized this annexation: Britain and Pakistan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan

In 1922, the League of Nations granted the United Kingdom a mandate over Palestine under terms similar to the Balfour Declaration.<48> The population of the area at this time was predominantly Muslim Arab, while the largest urban area in the region, Jerusalem, was predominantly Jewish.<49>

The third (19191923) and Fourth Aliyah (19241929) brought 100, 000 Jews to Palestine.<40> From 1921 the British subjected Jewish immigration to quotas and most of the territory slated for the Jewish state was allocated to Transjordan.<50>

The rise of Nazism in the 1930s led to the Fifth Aliyah, with an influx of a quarter of a million Jews. This caused the Arab revolt of 19361939 and led the British to cap immigration with the White Paper of 1939. With countries around the world turning away Jewish refugees fleeing the Holocaust, a clandestine movement known as Aliyah Bet was organized to bring Jews to Palestine.<40> By the end of World War II, Jews accounted for 33% of the population of Palestine, up from 11% in 1922.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

The whole area was transjordan. Jordan is the Palestinian homeland. Sorry, guys, you need to read your history.

Here is the story on the Ottoman Empire which sided with the Germans in WWI and was thereafter divided as stated above:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire

It's too long to copy here.

Here is a map picture of the Ottoman Empire 1914:



Here is a map of Transjordan in the early 1920s not long after WWI and the end of the Ottoman Empire. It was the British Mandate and included most of what are now Jordan, Palestinian Territories and Israel.

Please read your history books. It's so easy to Google stuff. Why do you folks insist on remaining ignorant.
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