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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:55 PM
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97. You are again responding to something I did not say, but
I will indulge you.

Chavez says the US is evil, brutal, and imperialistic.
THe US is brutal and imperialistic.

obviously that will influence Venezuala's stance toward the US.
I think it reflects Venezuala's stance toward the US, I dont think it influences it.

If you do not believe this to be the case, just look at the rhetoric shrub uses concerning nations in the world and the US stance towards those nations: Iran, North Korea, Iraq, Syria. Bush calls them oppressive, dictatorial regimes, and the official US policy towards these countries is, shall we say, less than friendly.

This hardly proves anything about Chavez, but I dont disagree with you that Chavez's language reflected his and thus to some extent his governments attitude towards Washington.

You seem to be believe tht the president of Venezuala can say the US is evil and barbaric, yet the official gov't policy towards the US won't be influenced by this perception. Are you really that naive?

You do realize this has nothing whatsoever to do with what we were discussing. We were discussing one sentance out of his speech where he called the US the most brutal empire in history. First you harped on the fact that the statement may not technically be true, then you pushed the idea that it was some kind of diplomatic blunder, when in fact it was rather unimportant rhetoric that nobody but you thinks is important.

But now you are apparently backing off your focus on that statement and you are making the completely unrelated argument that Chavez's overall negative message about America will cause his governments relationship with America to become more hostile.

This is of course obviously not true. His speech reflects his policy, it doesnt cause his policy.

But the fact that he is antagonizing Washington is certainly true, but it isnt a diplomatic blunder. First off, Washington made the decision to be an enemy of Chavez, not vice versa. So it is hardly suprising to see him railing against the US government. And secondly his strategy is paying off dividends as he continues to increase his credibility and popularity in the region by opposing destructive US policies.

You seem to think it is some scandalous revelation that Chavez and his government dont like the US government.
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