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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 06:10 PM Original message |
CNN/AP: Harvard committee recommends returning religion to core curriculum |
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Ninja Jordan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. This really 'latest breaking news'? |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 06:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Harvard students attend Harvard in reliance of a certain promises. |
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Ninja Jordan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 06:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Does it apply to current students? |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 06:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. The clip said "all undergraduates." |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Is Harvard actually "secular" and if it owes them a Level of Education... |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 12:18 AM Response to Reply #13 |
34. You can't change graduation requirements for current students. |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 10:37 AM Response to Reply #34 |
47. What does "Why Americans Love God and Europeans Don't." |
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AnnieBW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-07-06 12:27 AM Response to Reply #47 |
78. Why Do Europeans Hate God? |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-08-06 07:41 AM Response to Reply #78 |
90. Which has what to do with my post? |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:42 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. There's a difference between indoctrination and studying religion as |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 12:25 AM Response to Reply #14 |
35. Why should religion be singled out? |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 12:48 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. You might ask that question about any area of study |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 03:31 AM Response to Reply #36 |
43. Your personal attacks are absurd, and also prove the issue. |
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AliceWonderland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 03:59 PM Response to Reply #43 |
71. This is not what Religious Studies is about |
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Nevernose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 12:51 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Relgious instruction is VITAL to study ANY literature. |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 01:06 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. . |
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Nevernose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 01:41 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. No, but most of it does |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 11:11 AM Response to Reply #5 |
50. Comparative religion and the like is hardly "inflicting religion"; ... |
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Blaq Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
2. Remember when prayer was in school? |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. Most of the country never had school prayer |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 12:41 PM Response to Reply #16 |
56. I went to school in Texas in the 50's & 60's. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 01:07 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. And the fundies try to convince young parents |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
3. When the hell will they pick a new president? |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
4. "Why Americans love God and Europeans don't" is a course at Harvard? |
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Anakin Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 06:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. There Should Be an Economics Course Named: "Why Europeans Have Higher..... |
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patrick t. cakes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 12:57 AM Response to Reply #7 |
39. there |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. Professors often give their courses snappy titles |
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mwooldri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
9. There's nothing inherently wrong with R.E. in the curriculum. |
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Blaq Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 06:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Prayer can be done before the childs walks out the door |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 08:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Yeah, but our queen does not head the "Church of America." |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 02:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
63. yeah, and what a lot of you nice yanks don't seem to get |
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AliceWonderland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 04:31 PM Response to Reply #63 |
72. Actually, Newfoundland had denominational schools until |
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bling bling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
12. That's good. |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:44 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. By the nature of their vocation, most theology teachers are inclusive |
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KitSileya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-07-06 05:27 AM Response to Reply #15 |
85. In Norway, which has a state church, |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Many secular institutions have religious studies departments, including |
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bling bling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 10:34 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. That's an interesting graduate degree. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
19. Those Puritans burned witches at the stake |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 10:39 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. and horrible things are still done in the name of religion |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 10:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Can you name a few good things done by organized religion? |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 11:00 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. okay |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 11:06 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. All of those have been done by the civil authorities |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 11:24 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. you're certainly entitled to your opinion |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 11:34 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. I was speaking of the whole world, not just the U.S. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 12:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
54. I can't answer for Canada |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 01:48 PM Response to Reply #33 |
61. how's the gummint up here doing on the environment? |
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bling bling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 11:03 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Well, |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 11:11 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Religion can create a sense of community |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-07-06 05:41 AM Response to Reply #24 |
86. Sure, |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 10:41 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Actually, IG, no witches were ever burned in North America |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 11:24 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. Still, those Puritans were quite a despicable lot |
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enigma000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 11:09 AM Response to Reply #32 |
48. Not all Puritans were responsible for the Salem Witch Trials |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 11:12 AM Response to Reply #32 |
51. But they became the Congregationalists |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #51 |
69. Congregationalists became the United Church of Christ |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-08-06 07:38 AM Response to Reply #69 |
89. Tue but our history still comes thru |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 10:23 AM Response to Reply #22 |
46. if I can say so with no intent to offend anyone |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 12:37 PM Response to Reply #46 |
55. Well, W. Abbey IS still a functioning church, not an art museum |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 01:35 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. yes, but that was kinda my point |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 10:42 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Maybe they can include that in the curriculum |
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bling bling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 10:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. One class I took addressed all of those things. |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 11:14 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. That seems reasonable to me |
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bling bling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 01:10 AM Response to Reply #30 |
41. Well, Bush DID say that his favorite philosopher is Jesus. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 12:53 AM Response to Reply #23 |
38. They do examine these things |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 04:20 AM Response to Reply #38 |
44. "Read what they're actually proposing before you go off..." |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 02:51 PM Response to Reply #38 |
65. The article doesn't say they will study any of those things |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 03:23 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Well, it's a "for instance" kind of list, not an exhaustive list |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 03:51 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. I guess we would have to see the curriculum |
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AliceWonderland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 04:42 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. Good grief, you really think the title of the course has no irony? |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 06:36 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. I didn't say that |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 06:30 AM Response to Reply #19 |
45. Oh, please |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #19 |
68. Harvard is affiliated with the UUA |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-07-06 02:49 AM Response to Reply #68 |
82. The Ivy League |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-07-06 01:34 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. The direct descendants of the Puritans are the United Church of Christ |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-08-06 06:55 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. Their dedication to the arts leaves much to be desired. |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
49. Requiring college students to take a religion class is tyranny. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 03:59 PM Response to Reply #49 |
70. Harvard is not a public university |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 06:39 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. But Harvard is very influential |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-07-06 02:55 AM Response to Reply #49 |
83. Religion departments aren't necessarily Divinity Schools |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
52. unless they are requiring belief in specific religion, it's a good idea |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 01:51 PM Response to Reply #52 |
62. Bingo. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 10:37 PM Response to Reply #62 |
77. is that a pic of the founder of your religion? |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-07-06 01:53 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Hee, nope |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-07-06 02:28 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. damn, I'm getting the alzheimers--I forgot that was Homey |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
53. people need to learn more ways to deal with it beyond being dismissive |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
58. This is an issue that involves 0.00001% of the U.S. population |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-07-06 02:57 AM Response to Reply #58 |
84. Hehe |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
60. I think comparative religions should be taught |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-07-06 03:56 PM Response to Reply #60 |
88. yup |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
64. Not necessarily a bad thing |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
76. For the most religious nation in the developed world |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-07-06 02:43 AM Response to Original message |
81. Puritans were like the Taliban... |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-08-06 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
91. If religious studies is taught like it was at my college |
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